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Apple Raises Prices on Macs, iPads by $200 or More on Some Models
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The hardware and software quality has been in steady decline since Apple peaked around 2009. OS X Snow Leopard was the tightest OS built since NT 4.
Let's see where macOS 27 lands.
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Re: Apple Raises Prices on Macs, iPads by $200 or More on Some Models
Assclown Mini Tacos wrote:
That's a pretty big drive for the time - I have a PDP11/34 that has space in the rack for what were apparently a pair of RL02 drives - but the drives themselves are missing and trying to find a functioning one seems challenging.
You're not in the US, correct?
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Re: Apple Raises Prices on Macs, iPads by $200 or More on Some Models
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What a load of shyt
Apple has huge profit margins.
They're raising prices to maximize profits, not because they "need to".
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
But their PR spin is ridiculous, as if they're struggling to keep the lights on.
Looking at Lenovo... It looks like a Thinkpad X9 has increased by $500.
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Assclown Mini TacosRe: Apple Raises Prices on Macs, iPads by $200 or More on Some Models
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You're not in the US, correct?
Not any more - although this machine did come from the US. It's currently sitting in a 20' container with a bunch of other stuff I shipped that I haven't got around to working out what to do with.
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Re: Apple Raises Prices on Macs, iPads by $200 or More on Some Models
Assclown Mini Tacos wrote:
Not any more - although this machine did come from the US. It's currently sitting in a 20' container with a bunch of other stuff I shipped that I haven't got around to working out what to do with.
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Assclown Mini TacosRe: Apple Raises Prices on Macs, iPads by $200 or More on Some Models
Heekee wrote:
ah interesting, i always thought risc ran cooler and more efficient because of the lower clock speeds
They typically had higher clock speeds, but a much simpler internal architecture so they used less power per clock. RISC machines are also generally load/store with all other operations occurring between internal registers which reduces bus loading and the associated power consumption. Especially when you compare it with and architecture like x86 that has huge numbers of instructions that operate directly on memory.
But this became much less of an issue with the later x86 type CPUs because they had really sophisticated instruction decoding and scheduling which allowed the CISC instruction stream to be effectively decoded into a whole bunch of RISC like instructions inside the chip - it couldn't do the same depth of analysis that a complier for a RISC chip could, but it did a lot to close the gap.
The other problem with Motorola had was that they simply didn't have the volume to invest in really extensive and expensive design projects and they were falling behind in process technology (one of the reasons that they teamed up with IBM on Power PC - they had more up to date fab technology). In the end, it didn't matter much because Intel were making enough money they could easily outspend both Motorola and IBM on process technology and make chips that could easily overcome the slight architectural disadvantages of CISC by having parts that just worked better on a technical level.
Intel then proceeded to piss that technical leadership away by losing focus on the fabrication side of things - with the ultimate result that TSMC (who are a foundry operation with way smaller profit margins than a product owner like Intel) started making objectively better chips than Intel did. Which, in combination with some good or possibly lucky architectural decisions managed to turn AMD around from near bankruptcy and near irrelevance to extremely serious competition.
But at the time I think that Apple made a good call - the PowerPC product line was running out of steam and although ARM was well established in low power applications even the fastest ARM parts were running at a performance level that was low-end by desktop standards, so x86 was really the only plausible option.
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Assclown Mini TacosRe: Apple Raises Prices on Macs, iPads by $200 or More on Some Models
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https://eligroupllc.com
Maybe if I get in unpacked I will start looking for the other bits to get it running again - but since I can remember back when you could pull Microvax IIs out of dumpsters the prices people are now asking for this old stuff tends to make me lose interest pretty quickly.
I've seen people asking more for just the M7891 memory card than I paid for the entire system that has 2 of them installed in it.
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Re: Apple Raises Prices on Macs, iPads by $200 or More on Some Models
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Did you even read my post?
I clearly said "Not that there's anything wrong with that."
I saw that, but I also saw that "they're raising prices to maximize profits"
I guess so, but I don't think that they're raising their profit margins.
That was my point.
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Re: Apple Raises Prices on Macs, iPads by $200 or More on Some Models
Assclown Mini Tacos wrote:
Maybe if I get in unpacked I will start looking for the other bits to get it running again - but since I can remember back when you could pull Microvax IIs out of dumpsters the prices people are now asking for this old stuff tends to make me lose interest pretty quickly.
I've seen people asking more for just the M7891 memory card than I paid for the entire system that has 2 of them installed in it.
RD53s & RD54s have been expensive for years.
The living computer museum had created a Massbus to SSD controller. I don't know if one exists for Q-Bus.
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Re: Apple Raises Prices on Macs, iPads by $200 or More on Some Models
Assclown Mini Tacos wrote:
The other problem with Motorola had was that they simply didn't have the volume to invest in really extensive and expensive design projects and they were falling behind in process technology (one of the reasons that they teamed up with IBM on Power PC - they had more up to date fab technology). In the end, it didn't matter much because Intel were making enough money they could easily outspend both Motorola and IBM on process technology and make chips that could easily overcome the slight architectural disadvantages of CISC by having parts that just worked better on a technical level.
Intel then proceeded to piss that technical leadership away by losing focus on the fabrication side of things - with the ultimate result that TSMC (who are a foundry operation with way smaller profit margins than a product owner like Intel) started making objectively better chips than Intel did. Which, in combination with some good or possibly lucky architectural decisions managed to turn AMD around from near bankruptcy and near irrelevance to extremely serious competition.
But at the time I think that Apple made a good call - the PowerPC product line was running out of steam and although ARM was well established in low power applications even the fastest ARM parts were running at a performance level that was low-end by desktop standards, so x86 was really the only plausible option.
Apple did not want to pay for PowerPC improvements.
Intel pissed their leadership away by going curry. The Americans ended up at AMD & Apple.
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Re: Apple Raises Prices on Macs, iPads by $200 or More on Some Models
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Apple did not want to pay for PowerPC improvements.
Intel pissed their leadership away by going curry. The Americans ended up at AMD & Apple.
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The Mirror On The WallRe: Apple Raises Prices on Macs, iPads by $200 or More on Some Models
I wonder if they'll actually release a MBP with cellular. Or maybe satellite data? Apple's always had overpriced ram and storage, it's just more of the same. But if they want to sell the same product in EU they'll have to be repairable.
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Re: Apple Raises Prices on Macs, iPads by $200 or More on Some Models
The Mirror On The Wall wrote:
I wonder if they'll actually release a MBP with cellular. Or maybe satellite data? Apple's always had overpriced ram and storage, it's just more of the same. But if they want to sell the same product in EU they'll have to be repairable.
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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez decried Apple’s recent $200 price hikes on computers and tablets, which the tech giant blamed on a memory chip crunch — and called for breaking up Big Tech.
“We need to break up a lot of these companies that are far, far too big, and we need to be instituting consumer protections for people,” the New York Democrat told Fox News.
Most analysts believe the so-called “RAM-ageddon” crisis is a result of the rapid build-out of data centers to power artificial intelligence, which has turbocharged demand for memory chips.
Citing memory chip shortages, Apple jacked up prices last week on a handful of MacBook and iPads, in some cases by $200 or more. Price increases were about 15% to 20% for Macs and 15% to 25% for iPads.
“Unfortunately, price increases are unavoidable,” outgoing Apple CEO Tim Cook told the Wall Street Journal.
Some experts, including famed Apple whisperer Mark Gurman, have argued that the price hikes are a “new normal” for Apple and likely to stay even after the memory chip crunch gets resolved.
“Now [the price] to buy laptops, computers, iPads, electronics in general will go up, because the data centers are sucking up all of our own industrial supply, and so we’re paying in a lot of ways, we are subsidizing the development of a lot of data centers,” Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) contended.
“The problem that we have is that these big companies, they think they are governments, they want to be governments, they want to have totally unchecked power,” she later added. “I believe that we need to pursue antitrust, and we also need to give some more protections for consumers.”
She further dinged Big Tech companies for conducting mass layoffs over recent months and for pushing up energy prices for consumers, all while threatening to undermine people’s jobs with AI.
When pressed about whether Congress should take action similar to the Creating Helpful Incentives to Produce Semiconductors (CHIPS) Act, which included billions in federal funding to support the reshoring of semiconductor manufacturing, Ocasio-Cortez noted that policymakers didn’t anticipate the AI boom when they wrote that legislation.
“The CHIPS Act was passed before we saw this huge development in AI, so the CHIPS Act was really passed before data centers were a thing, so it wasn’t designed to anticipate the huge amount of supply that these centers are sucking up,” the congresswoman explained.
Ocasio-Cortez has backed legislation with her kindred spirit, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), to impose a moratorium on the development of AI data centers.
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Re: Apple Raises Prices on Macs, iPads by $200 or More on Some Models
Just purchased a new MacBook Pro for the sibling's business.
The Apple Store is sold out of MacBook Air/Neo models. Only MacBook Pro available for purchase.
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