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Woops, the world is not obeying Phillup's wishes:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-m … -illegally
California MS-13 member accused of 10-year-old's torture and murder is in US illegally: source
Kareem Leiva, an accused child killer expected to go to trial next week, is also an illegal immigrant, according to a law enforcement source
Michael Ruiz
By Michael Ruiz | Fox News
Warning: This story includes graphic allegations of violence against children
EXCLUSIVE: A suspected MS-13 gang member set to go on trial next week for the horrific 2018 slaying of his California girlfriend's 10-year-old son is a native of El Salvador and living in the U.S. illegally, according to a law enforcement source.
Kareem Ernesto Leiva, 37, and his American girlfriend Heather Maxine Barron, 33, are both charged with murder and torture in the death of her son, Anthony Avalos, as well as child abuse against two other children in the home, court records show.
Prosecutors allege the boy had been beaten, starved, forced to kneel on rice, force-fed, whipped and more in a home where he was allegedly subjected to "extreme physical pain and suffering."
He just came here from El Salvador for an opportunity to build a better life.
Besides, baggerblog.
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Phil really proved himself to be an idiot in this thread.
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Phillip_McCavitywrote:
Woops, the world is not obeying Phillup's wishes:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-m … -illegally
Good thing no US citizens ever commit crimes.
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Phillip_McCavitywrote:
Phil really proved himself to be an idiot in this thread.
I'm providing sources and data.
And based on that, there is no practical way to keep people from coming here.
So the right thing to do is make the border safe, orderly, and sane.
Congress needs to act and pass immigration reform. It can include more technology and people to interdict drugs and other illegal items.
It should legalize the DACA folks and, with some conditions, their parents.
It should allow for separate refugee statuses so we can have economic refugees, political refugees, and humanitarian refugees.
It should discourage people from just coming. The government should be empowered to provide direct refugee flights when appropriate.
It should have work requirements for most categories.
It should encourage cooperation between nations, sharing police records, encourage more nations to accept refugees.
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@ Phil
We have an open border and you are just going to have to learn how do deal with the new population that is migrating here.
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Phillip_McCavity wrote:
I'm providing sources and data.
And based on that, there is no practical way to keep people from coming here.
So the right thing to do is make the border safe, orderly, and sane.
Congress needs to act and pass immigration reform. It can include more technology and people to interdict drugs and other illegal items.
It should legalize the DACA folks and, with some conditions, their parents.
It should allow for separate refugee statuses so we can have economic refugees, political refugees, and humanitarian refugees.
It should discourage people from just coming. The government should be empowered to provide direct refugee flights when appropriate.
It should have work requirements for most categories.
It should encourage cooperation between nations, sharing police records, encourage more nations to accept refugees.
Most people this deep in a hole stop digging. But not you, Phil. You’re a special kind of stupid.
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Real Donald TrumpPhillip_McCavity wrote:
The US cannot stop people from coming here.
Right, but there's no need to accept that they stay
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wrote:
Most people this deep in a hole stop digging. But not you, Phil. You’re a special kind of stupid.

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Phillip_McCavity wrote:
I'm providing sources and data.
And based on that, there is no practical way to keep people from coming here.
So the right thing to do is make the border safe, orderly, and sane.
Congress needs to act and pass immigration reform. It can include more technology and people to interdict drugs and other illegal items.
It should legalize the DACA folks and, with some conditions, their parents.
It should allow for separate refugee statuses so we can have economic refugees, political refugees, and humanitarian refugees.
It should discourage people from just coming. The government should be empowered to provide direct refugee flights when appropriate.
It should have work requirements for most categories.
It should encourage cooperation between nations, sharing police records, encourage more nations to accept refugees.
FALSE.
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Phillip_McCavityReal Donald Trump wrote:
Right, but there's no need to accept that they stay
The vast majority are sent back, after a hearing. Those hearings are now backed up. Congress could appropriate more.
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Phillip_McCavity wrote:
The vast majority are sent back, after a hearing. Those hearings are now backed up. Congress could appropriate more.
FALSE.
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Phillip_McCavity wrote:
The vast majority are sent back, after a hearing. Those hearings are now backed up. Congress could appropriate more.
What fuqing world do you live in?
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Phillip_McCavity wrote:
Good thing no US citizens ever commit crimes.
That is not the topic in this thread. This is about you claiming illegals are here to make our country better even with ample evidence that it is the dregs of Central America coming here.
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Real Donald Trump wrote:
Right, but there's no need to accept that they stay
And certainly no reason to reward them and bait more in.
If they knew there was a greater chance they would die than that they would be allowed to stay very few would try.
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Phillip_McCavity wrote:
We detect and apprehend people now.
So either the border is secure, or you have an unrealistic expectation of what security means.

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Phillip_McCavityI still believe this.
I don't usually discuss my exact viewpoints, but this is one that I hold.
Border security means knowing who is coming and for what purpose. What happens after apprehension is a pure policy issue. Right now, the asylum law governs, and that means people must be given a hearing.
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Phillip_McCavity wrote:
I still believe this.
I don't usually discuss my exact viewpoints, but this is one that I hold.
Border security means knowing who is coming and for what purpose. What happens after apprehension is a pure policy issue. Right now, the asylum law governs, and that means people must be given a hearing.
Yet you support them coming across anywhere on the border, away from the ports of entry so they can't be tracked vetted or identified.
Fuq off, you are full of shyt and a liar.
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Phillip_McCavitywrote:
Yet you support them coming across anywhere on the border, away from the ports of entry so they can't be tracked vetted or identified.
Fuq off, you are full of shyt and a liar.
No, I would like things to be orderly, clean, and safe. That means crossing at lawful entry points.
However, the law says that asylum can be sought without regard to how a person arrived here.
And, the vast majority of people will cross at a lawful point if they are given the opportunity to do so.
In fact, the vast majority do.
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wrote:
Phil really proved himself to be an idiot in this thread.
He proves it repeatedly in virtually every post he makes and by his nanny moderation.
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Phillip_McCavity wrote:
No, I would like things to be orderly, clean, and safe. That means crossing at lawful entry points.
However, the law says that asylum can be sought without regard to how a person arrived here.
And, the vast majority of people will cross at a lawful point if they are given the opportunity to do so.
In fact, the vast majority do.
You are making up "facts" that satisfy your cognitive dissonance.
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The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic.
First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about.
Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day. Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.
Gradually I began to hate them.
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Phillip_McCavity wrote:
the US cannot stop people from coming here.
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Diarrhetrius Brown$1,000 bounty dead or alive.
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