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So the consensus of the Baggertrons here is that if you’re in a war and it’s gone one for a long time you should surrender and give up land to make the aggressor happy.
You know this was tried before. In the 1930s. And look how that turned out.
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To the victor the spoils.
Law of the jungle son.
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To the victor the spoils.
Law of the jungle son.
War is not over. Your side is saying the defender should surrender and capitulate to an aggressor and their demands.
Remember when Biden pulled out of Afghanistan and your side lost their collective minds saying we were giving up. How is this any different?
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If Cuba declared war on the US and we were unable to stop Cuba’s military and unable to convince our allies to send their militaries to save us, then indeed we would reach a surrender agreement where Florida (or whatever territory) was given to Cuba.
That’s how war works.
How would they get here? The fairy Godmother?
Also, do you see the absurdity of trying to occupy Florida?
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War is not over. Your side is saying the defender should surrender and capitulate to an aggressor and their demands.
Remember when Biden pulled out of Afghanistan and your side lost their collective minds saying we were giving up. How is this any different?
Because it was handled in a fuqing retarded manner.
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So the consensus of the Baggertrons here is that if you’re in a war and it’s gone one for a long time you should surrender and give up land to make the aggressor happy.
You know this was tried before. In the 1930s. And look how that turned out.
A litle more appeasement prior to WW1 might have averted both wars, pillow biter.
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NEGOTIATION MEANS HITLER WINS!
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Indeed, if Mexico declared war on the US and our military was unable to fight them, yes we would lose the war & have to give up land in the surrender agreement. Otherwise the killing extends indefinitely or until the loser - us - is out of people and options.
You keep forgetting about 35 million armed Texans.
The Mexican army can't even defeat their own cartels.
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You keep forgetting about 35 million armed Texans.
The Mexican army can't even defeat their own cartels.
He's describing a hypothetical scenario where Mexico isn't a failed state, twatflaps
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He's describing a hypothetical scenario where Mexico isn't a failed state, twatflaps
Hypothetical
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War is not over. Your side is saying the defender should surrender and capitulate to an aggressor and their demands.
Remember when Biden pulled out of Afghanistan and your side lost their collective minds saying we were giving up. How is this any different?
When facing total defeat the loser needs to beg for mercy & try to cut a deal to save the lives of the remaining soldiers and keep the destruction down. Cutting their losses. If not the winner takes all. I love Ukranians - don’t want to see these beautiful intelligent people extinguished. Let them live like they did pre 1991.
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How would they get here? The fairy Godmother?
Also, do you see the absurdity of trying to occupy Florida?
That’s why the US keeps a strong military (and spends a large fortune doing it) so we don’t get run over. Nobody dare step.
Or we could spend all that money on social welfare programs like Europe, or squander all funds on grifting & corruption & lining others pockets, and be very weak militarily.
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You keep forgetting about 35 million armed Texans.
The Mexican army can't even defeat their own cartels.
And that’s how we like it 
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There is an excellent book that follows the alternate history of the New World getting colonized bigly by Vikings in the year 800 or so, and teaching the new world savages how to make and use metal, how a fuqing wheel works, expose them to germs & have them build natural immunity, and take 2 continents out of the Stone Age. These advances made the Incas/Mayans/Aztecs into a brutal war machine. Then when Western Europe started poking around in 1492 they were destroyed by these advanced former savages, who strike back and take over Europe.
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That’s why the US keeps a strong military (and spends a large fortune doing it) so we don’t get run over. Nobody dare step.
Or we could spend all that money on social welfare programs like Europe, or squander all funds on grifting & corruption & lining others pockets, and be very weak militarily.
You forgot the part about Europe importing all of those Ooga Boogas and goat fuqers.
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And that’s how we like it
Indeed
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You forgot the part about Europe importing all of those Ooga Boogas and goat fuqers.
All that money they save by having no military whatsoever has to go somewhere
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When facing total defeat the loser needs to beg for mercy & try to cut a deal to save the lives of the remaining soldiers and keep the destruction down. Cutting their losses. If not the winner takes all. I love Ukranians - don’t want to see these beautiful intelligent people extinguished. Let them live like they did pre 1991.
Russia has barely managed to take 10% of the country. Ukraine has repelled and stopped them for years.
This is not a country facing total defeat. Stupider than dogshyt baggers, who take load after load of total horseshyt lies from right-wing propaganda believe that. Normal sane humans, who read facts and truth, know that Ukraine is far from defeated. Baggers want to rush through peace so Trump can parade around and act like some peacemaker and get an award.
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Russia has barely managed to take 10% of the country. Ukraine has repelled and stopped them for years.
This is not a country facing total defeat. Stupider than dogshyt baggers, who take load after load of total horseshyt lies from right-wing propaganda believe that. Normal sane humans, who read facts and truth, know that Ukraine is far from defeated. Baggers want to rush through peace so Trump can parade around and act like some peacemaker and get an award.
GED level analysis.
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All that money they save by having no military whatsoever has to go somewhere
More Ooga Boogas & Mudslimes means having to pay for more cops.
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GED level analysis.
Yes, but the Bagger analysis was Kindergarten level.
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Yes, but the Bagger analysis was Kindergarten level.
No, you!
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Russia has barely managed to take 10% of the country. Ukraine has repelled and stopped them for years.
This is not a country facing total defeat. Stupider than dogshyt baggers, who take load after load of total horseshyt lies from right-wing propaganda believe that. Normal sane humans, who read facts and truth, know that Ukraine is far from defeated. Baggers want to rush through peace so Trump can parade around and act like some peacemaker and get an award.
We owe Ukraine nothing. They cannot survive a war with Russia. Everybody knows this.
Spare their lives or lose everything. Not our war.
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So, with this reasoning, if an area of a country contains a sizable population of a minority ethic group, the neighboring country of that ethic group should just get the land.
Based on your reasoning, we should give a chunk of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California to Mexico. Because there are a lot of Mexicans there.
I suppose we should give a chunk of the Midwest to the Germans, since there are a lot of Germans there too.
And of course most of south Florida should be ceded to Cuba.
You support this?
False equivalence. It's the same reason Hitler invaded Poland. Ethnic Germans in Danzig were being mistreated by the Poles. Ethnic Russians in the Donbas were being mistreated by the Ukrainians. They were about 40% of the population. So Putin, like Hitler, moved in to help his people.
The Mexicans in the Southwest US and the Cubans in south Florida aren't being mistreated.
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Russia invaded. Killed their people.
Why should Ukraine give them a single thing?
It makes absolutely no sense.
It’s like saying since a lot of immigrants came to the USA from Mexico, we should just cede a few states to Mexico to ensure peace.
Why shouldn't the US give its land back to Mexico and the Indians?
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