> HDDVD, Gone, But Not Forgotten

AusCarFancier wrote:

To 4k it is bullshyt but it works well for HD like 720.

Which is what we are talking about here so

To anything it is bullshyt. You can’t make something from nothing. You aren’t a technical person. Don’t pretend to be.

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You used to get 10 cd's for $20.

Nah. Unless you joined the Columbia Music Club scam.

Sockpuppet wrote:

Nah. Unless you joined the Columbia Music Club scam.

Wasn't a scam I got lots of great CD's.  They still work fine on my 4x Magnavox. Same way Tapes still sound good. i know from experience, I might want to play some music from 30 years ago.

The other 40 billion songs in the streaming catalogs are 98% the stuff that never got popular for a reason. it's loss leaders all over again.

Once I've listened to my favorites, it turns out I can only play so much music a day, or even in a year. Having random access to a billion other songs, is moot really.

Sockpuppet wrote:

To anything it is bullshyt. You can’t make something from nothing. You aren’t a technical person. Don’t pretend to be.

Oh you're a real technical person Brian, as we can all tell from your rented magnum opus.

keep pushing modern UI, loser!
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Sockpuppet wrote:

Amazon Music Unlimited Family plan costs $149 a year in 2023 dollars. CDs used to cost $14.99 each back in 1993 dollars. Ten CDs (100 songs) a year or 80M songs a year? No brainer.

BUT NOSTALGIA OR SOMETHING!!!
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Torrents are the no-brainer.  Ownership society at even less thatn rental costs.

Sockpuppet wrote:

Without Googling explain how upscaling works. When done please explain how upscaling is able to create something from nothing.

I don't need to bargearse, for the sake of this conversation the proof is in other people being able to watch DVDs on HDTVs and be satisfied with the picture.

You thinking of yourself as a "technical person" is just Dunning Kruger of the "upscaled" NPD kind...

Sockpuppet wrote:

You can watch DVDs on an HDTV without upscaling. The picture might even look better depending on the TV.

Fuqing Christ you are a dipshyt.

Your head would split open if you tried to understand resolution, DPI, scale, device pixels, and CSS pixels. Something that is very important for the modern UI you mock.

But he is right that your "modern" UI looks like ass.

Sockpuppet wrote:

It look better than the old UI. And way more functional.

Nope.

On phone I still have to zoom up every page to read. On PC it just sucks.

Sockpuppet wrote:

You can watch DVDs on an HDTV without upscaling. The picture might even look better depending on the TV.

Fuqing Christ you are a dipshyt.

Your head would split open if you tried to understand resolution, DPI, scale, device pixels, and CSS pixels. Something that is very important for the modern UI you mock.

I'm confused by the argument you are trying to make - if you want to display 720p "HD" content on a 4K display then unless you display it in a little box that only occupies about 11% of the screen then something has to be upscaling it, simply because the target device has 9 times as many pixels as the source format.  So it just comes down to where the upscaling is occurring and what processing is being carried out.

Sockpuppet wrote:

Sort of. Also not.

You need to differentiate between scaling and upscaling.

720p scales nicely on to 4K since 2160/720=3. The TV can simple scale the image by using 3 physical pixels to display 1 source pixel. Same with 1080p content. 2160/1080=2. This is scaling.

720p does not scale as nicely to 1080p since the factor is 1.5. This is where upscaling comes in. Some sort of algorithm has to be applied to stretch the content. There are numerous ways to do this. Some of them involve creating content that doesn’t exist by interpolating what might have appeared between two pixels. There are other approaches as well.

The convention in the industry is that any mechanism that takes a lower resolution source and converts it to a higher resolution is "upscaling" - just as any mechanism that takes a higher resolution and converts it to a lower resolution is "downscaling".

Even if you are just duplicating pixels you are still upscaling - although most display processors won't do that, and will instead generate the pixels using bilinear interpolation, often combined with some form of edge processing to avoid the overly soft image that pure interpolation can sometimes create.