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#1 2022-06-23 20:50:34

"Russia is done with the West. The divorce is nearly complete"

Russia’s New Rules

Russia is done with the West. The divorce is nearly complete. In the past few days we’ve heard from all major Russian leaders the same thing, “The West will play by our rules now.”


You can decide for yourselves whether Russia is writing checks they can’t cash, but in the words of Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov telling the BBC bluntly, “We do not care about the eyes of the West.” Lavrov has always been the soul of politeness and discretion when dealing with European media.

His open hostility towards his BBC interviewer was not only palpable, it was hard to argue with. He followed that up with:

“I don’t think there’s even room for maneuver left anymore,” Lavrov replied.

“Because both [Prime Minister Boris] Johnson and [Foreign Secretary Liz] Truss say publicly: ’We must defeat Russia, we must bring Russia to its knees. Go on, then, do it.”

Russia’s leadership never talks in such openly blunt terms. It’s almost like Lavrov was channeling comedian Dennis Miller who used to say, “Feeling froggy, take that leap.”

See where it gets you.

IRussia knows it has the West on the ropes. We need what they produce and now they are determined to set the rules on who gets them and for what price. It knows that European leaders are puppets with Klaus Schwab’s hand up their asses.

And it knows Davos has zero leverage over Russia’s actions from here on out.

Which brings me to the statements linked above by Gazprom CEO Alexei Miller, speaking at a panel at the St. Petersburg Economic Investment Forum (SPEIF) who just put the situation in the starkest terms there is.

“The game of nominal value of money is over, as this system does not allow to control the supply of resources. …Our product, our rules. We don’t play by the rules we didn’t create.”

Miller’s statement should be thought of as a statement of principle across all theatres of operation for Russia. This doesn’t just apply to natural gas or oil. This is everything, all of Russia’s dealings with the West from here on out will be on its terms not the West’s.

This is clearly the biggest geopolitical middle finger in the post WWII period.

Miller is clearly laying out the rules for a new, commodity-centric monetary system, one based on what Credit Suisse’s Zoltan Poszar called ‘outside money’ — commodities, gold, even bitcoin — rather than the West’s egregious use of ‘inside money’ — debt-based fiat and credit — to perpetuate old colonialist behavior well past its use-by date.

I laid out the basic problem in an article from March after Russia soft-pegged the ruble to gold.

Today’s “Inside Money” standard, known colloquially as the Dollar Reserve standard, is actually what I like to call “Milton Friedman’s Nightmare.” It is nothing more than a system of competitively devalued and inflated debt-based scrips running around drinking each other’s milkshakes until everyone’s glass is empty.

Miller is definitely a glass full kinda guy now.

These comments came after Gazprom began cutting gas flows to Europe through the Nordstream 1 pipeline using the cover story of repaired gas turbines trapped in fascist Canada which couldn’t be shipped back to Siemens because of sanctions.

Now Germany and Canada are trying to figure out how to circumvent the sanctions to get these turbines back.

At the same time Miller pledged more gas to China (up 67% yoy through May) because Russia is interested in energy stability for its friends, while its enemies can starve.

Reuters is reporting that “Russia’s Gazprom increased gas supplies to China by 67% in the first five months of this year, the company’s CEO Alexei Miller said on Thursday.”

It was also on Wednesday that Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping held their second phone call since the Ukraine war began. Xi told Putin that China is “willing to continue to offer mutual support (to Russia) on issues concerning core interests and major concerns such as sovereignty and security,” as quoted in state broadcaster CCTV.

The arrogance of EU commissars never ceases to amaze me. These people all but declare war on Russia and then act shocked (Shocked, I say!) that Russia then treats them like that.

On the same day that four members of the EU Commission — France, Italy, Germany and Romania — approve fast-tracking Ukraine’s membership application, France’s Emmanuel Macron urges Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to go to the bargaining table with Russia.

Even if Zelenskyy were to make those overtures to Russia, given his public statements on what his terms are, there would be absolutely zero chance that Russia would agree to show up for talks.

At this point I see nothing more than Russia continuing to grind out the Ukrainian army, taking what territory they want and then shepherding through local elections by the conquered territory to either become independent states or part of Russia.

It’s likely the latter at this point since Russia is now issuing Russian passports in regions they’ve taken from Ukraine, which the EU, of course, will refuse to honor until no one cares what they think anymore.

The rules are changing rapidly. Looking ahead there is a real danger that what Russia has set in motion leads to something no one wants to contemplate. Of course the West helped create this situation by forcing Putin’s hand to invade Ukraine, so who’s to blame about where this all leads to may, ultimately, be an irrelevant point.

Let’s hope the noises coming from the West about the sanctions having gone too far and the chest-beating of the worst US and British neocons is no longer being taken seriously by anyone with their fingers anywhere near the launch codes.

If that’s the case than these new rules will be grudgingly accepted only after a lot of borders have been redrawn, new alliances formed and a different world order established.

This morning at the President Putin declared the old world order dead. He finished his speech where he detailed how the West was committing suicide to suit the wishes of The Davos Crowd with the following definitive statement:

“Russia is entering the coming era as a powerful sovereign country. We will definitely use the enormous new opportunities that time opens up for us. And we will become even stronger.”

Putin is correct here. Russia is getting stronger by the day. The West took their best shot at destroying Russia and missed the mark. He clearly identified the real culprits for Europe’s and the US’s problems, subservience to an oligarch class who feel entitled to rule the world.

When the war started I wrote about what I thought Putin’s intentions were. Then it was speculation:

Russia held all the cards in the negotiations over Ukraine and we recklessly pursued a policy of insults and amateurish propaganda, refusing to believe Russia wouldn’t make her final stand.

By putting boots on the ground, planes in the air and missiles up the ass of every Ukrainian military installation across the country, Russia turned the ‘might makes right’ argument of the US and Europe on its head.

The game has changed because the rules have changed. It’s no longer a game of rhetorical chicken and virtue signaling.

Today it is fact. When Putin made his move on Ukraine the ultimate goal was the end of Russia treating the West as an equal and leading the Global South out of what he has called “vassalage.” The reason Putin is hated is because he realizes there are two types of countries, “sovereigns” and “vassals.”

It’s been his life’s work to make Russia into a ‘sovereign’ state free from the West.

From Russia’s perspective their military operation in Ukraine was their Declaration of Independence from the old ‘rules-based order’ of the post-WWII era. Justified or not, we are now in a new age.

The question is now, how many will survive into it.

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#2 2022-06-23 20:54:45

Re: "Russia is done with the West. The divorce is nearly complete"

Heavy stuff and I don't think the US is prepared for any of it.

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#3 2022-06-23 21:00:08

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In other words, the US is back to the cold war era of 1945 to 1991.  Somehow, we survived.

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#4 2022-06-23 21:01:46

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An interesting take:

Putin figured out the US plan in Europe a while back. And that is to cut off Russia because he knows that they know that he can take down the petrodollar and dollar and has the cahunas to do it. The thing that he likely also senses is that for the EU to shot itself in the foot to save the dollar and dollar system for the US and above all the bankers will have limits. There is a point where the population will have enough. For now, they maintain the narrative in the media, but the US and UK have to extend the war endlessly and people have a limit. They have to force the EU off Russian energy back to other sources paid for in dollars of the dollar and dollar-system is dead and with it the western-led world order.

Putin laid out his vision at an economic forum in 2009 which put him at odds with power in the West. He thought (and still thinks) that countries should trade in national currencies and no reserve currency so that each country benefits of its own advantages without unduly favoring one country. His reasoning is that this would promote equality among countries in the World and encourage dialogue rather than imposing the so-called "correct" point of view. This is in complete opposition to the ideal of those (bankers) who want to rule the World enslaved through debt.

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#5 2022-06-23 21:06:01

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In other words, the US is back to the cold war era of 1945 to 1991.  Somehow, we survived.

The reference point for this is 1973 and the creation of the 'petrodollar'.    Watch Saudi closely and see what they do.   So far they have been very cool to the US in all this, enough to make Biden go over there.

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VP_Spiro_T_Cheney
#6 2022-06-23 21:27:45

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The reference point for this is 1973 and the creation of the 'petrodollar'.    Watch Saudi closely and see what they do.   So far they have been very cool to the US in all this, enough to make Biden go over there.

lol  USA to Saudis: 

You wanna play footsie with the Russians?

We'll no longer take responsibility for keeping the Straights of Hormuz open and safe for your oil shipments.  Good luck with your Shiite neighbors!

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#7 2022-06-23 21:30:57

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VP_Spiro_T_Cheney wrote:

lol  USA to Saudis: 

You wanna play footsie with the Russians?

We'll no longer take responsibility for keeping the Straights of Hormuz open and safe for your oil shipments.  Good luck with your Shiite neighbors!

That is when Saudi gets China and Russia to fill the void left behind when the US leaves the region.

And believe me, they would love to do it - particularly China.

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#8 2022-06-23 21:44:47

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That is when Saudi gets China and Russia to fill the void left behind when the US leaves the region.

And believe me, they would love to do it - particularly China.

Here:


China is now the single largest investor and trading partner to 11 Middle Eastern countries, thanks primarily to its Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), a global, multi-trillion-dollar project.

China has significantly increased its economic, political, and security footprint in the Middle East through the BRI during the past decade. The ‘Belt’ runs from China, through South and Central Asia, and into Europe. The Maritime “road” connects coastal Chinese cities with Africa and the Mediterranean.

The Center for Economics and Business Research (CEBR) reported that China’s Belt and Road Initiative is likely to boost world GDP by $7.1 trillion annually within the next two decades. As attractive as that might sound, in addition to economic activity, China has geopolitical motivations behind its Belt and Road Initiative.

According to The Guardian, BRI projects have left 165 countries collectively owing a massive $385 billion to China. China systematically underreports stats like this to international bodies, such as the World Bank.

The Information office of the Chinese government reports the BRI has created more than 244,000 jobs for locals overseas. However, a vast majority of BRI projects require the use of Chinese companies, labor, and raw materials, meaning the GDP gains from BRI will go to the Chinese ‘locals,’ not to the locals of the countries in which China has invested.

Energy Security of People’s Republic of China

China’s top economic agencies have singled out “security” as a priority for 2022. In other words, securing the supplies of everything from grains to energy and raw materials. According to The Brookings Institution, “China’s growing role in the Middle East is positioning the rising superpower in direct confrontation with shifting U.S. interests in the domains of energy security, Israel, and Iran.”. The US finds itself reducing its footprint in the Middle East and shifting its focus towards the Asia-Pacific, giving China the opportunity to expand its influence in the region. Chinese economic dominance may invite similar regional skirmishes as the country seems happy to leverage risky debt against the countries it invests in to get what it wants diplomatically.

China’s relationship with the Middle East revolves primarily around Energy and the BRI. The Middle East and North Africa (MENA), a collective of 19 counties, has vast oil, petroleum, and natural gas reserves, making it attractive to China.

According to China Global Investment Tracker, Beijing heavily depends on Middle Eastern oil and gas. In addition to energy security, China’s strong diplomatic ties with MENA countries are vital to implementing BRI across several continents. Chinese State-owned lenders have been financing projects in Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Oman, the United Arab Emirates, and Djibouti, where Beijing has established its only overseas military base.


https://www.iranintl.com/en/202201234628

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#9 2022-06-23 21:44:53

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Djibouti, located in ‘The Horn of Africa’, also hosts U.S., French, and Japanese military bases. The international interest in Djibouti lies in the Bab El-Mandeb Strait, a strategic route for oil and natural gas shipments, connecting the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean. Its location makes the choke point geopolitically and economically significant.

The Energy Information Administration (EIA) reports, approximately “6.2 million barrels per day of crude oil, condensate, and refined petroleum products flowed through the Bab El-Mandeb Strait towards Europe, the United States, and Asia.” One-third of the world’s ships transporting energy and cargo must pass through the strait. Bab El-Mandeb is one among a series of trade and energy corridors in which China has invested stretching from the South China Sea to the Arabian Sea, referred to by India as a “String of Pearls.” India sees this investment as a sign of China’s growing military and trade prowess in the region. Indian critics are worried the BRI is a military initiative, aiming to give the Chinese Navy better access to the Indian Ocean.

China’s maritime “road” now stretches from western Xinjiang, through India, into the Persian Gulf. To implement BRI, China will need to achieve energy security within the Middle East, to keep its pace of development. To achieve energy security, China needs bases at every strategic port and chokepoint. As for the Gulf states’ approval of China, Iran announced the opening of a Chinese consulate in Bandar-Abbas, Iran’s most significant trading and military port on December 29th, 2021. Beijing has maintained close ties with Iran amid nuclear negotiations with the U.S. Iran recently signed a 25-year cooperation agreement with China, allowing China to invest $400 billion over 25 years in Iran. The Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said, “The Islamic Republic will never forget China’s cooperation during the sanctions era.” It is essential to keep in mind, Iran’s cooperation with China may be a non-calculated reaction to its bad relations with the United States, and not a calculated strategic move on Teheran’s part, for its long-term development and international trade.Sorely needed economic injection investee countries like Iran, will receive from China, position China to earn favorable diplomatic preference throughout the developing regions through which BRI is implemented.

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VP_Spiro_T_Cheney
#10 2022-06-23 23:34:28

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That is when Saudi gets China and Russia to fill the void left behind when the US leaves the region.

And believe me, they would love to do it - particularly China.

Russia has no blue water Navy, China is at best a regional naval power and they're both entirely fuqing welcome to try and get between the Shiites and the Sunnis.

Anyhow Russia and China are both old countries facing demographic time bombs within the next decade.  Tons of pensioners, no young people.

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#11 2022-06-23 23:40:55

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VP_Spiro_T_Cheney wrote:

Russia has no blue water Navy, China is at best a regional naval power and they're both entirely fuqing welcome to try and get between the Shiites and the Sunnis.

Anyhow Russia and China are both old countries facing demographic time bombs within the next decade.  Tons of pensioners, no young people.

They really don't need a 'blue water navy' - their goals are close to home.   That stuff is for the US who have to cross entire oceans to bomb and destroy, so we built the aircraft carrier.   They don't need them so much, particularly if they all become allied against Europe and do what they can against NATO.

Anyhoo, I have to wonder if the Biden Saudi trip will get cancelled because of things like this.   Will they even host him?

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#12 2022-06-23 23:49:20

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China and Russia both have been more beligerent than they have ever been and India has stayed out of the sanctions and quietly gone along.   It all bears close watching the next couple of years.

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#13 2022-06-23 23:55:08

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They really don't need a 'blue water navy' - their goals are close to home.   That stuff is for the US who have to cross entire oceans to bomb and destroy, so we built the aircraft carrier.   They don't need them so much, particularly if they all become allied against Europe and do what they can against NATO.

Anyhoo, I have to wonder if the Biden Saudi trip will get cancelled because of things like this.   Will they even host him?

This is old news. The BBC interview was ages ago, and Zoltan is probably looking for a new job, since Credit Suisse is going bust.

Anyway, try to concentrate. The reason Biden is going to Saudi Arabia is not because of Russia or China or some such bullshyt. He's going to cement an alliance between Saudi Arabia and Israel - a new Abraham accord - and Egypt will have to pay a price (they'll have to relinquish two islands to Saudi Arabia).

Why do baggers rehash old, stupid arguments? Russia is done for. The new axis is the Israel-Saudi Arabia axis (the axis of evil, if you will) which the Yids will use to go after China.

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#14 2022-06-23 23:59:26

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This is old news. The BBC interview was ages ago, and Zoltan is probably looking for a new job, since Credit Suisse is going bust.

Anyway, try to concentrate. The reason Biden is going to Saudi Arabia is not because of Russia or China or some such bullshyt. He's going to cement an alliance between Saudi Arabia and Israel - a new Abraham accord - and Egypt will have to pay a price (they'll have to relinquish two islands to Saudi Arabia).

Why do baggers rehash old, stupid arguments? Russia is done for. The new axis is the Israel-Saudi Arabia axis (the axis of evil, if you will) which the Yids will use to go after China.

I don't think that is why Joe is going there, if a new Abraham Accord was in the works we would have heard about it and Blinken would be very active and he is not.   This is to ask Saudi to increase crude production, as they have stated.

So far the Saudis have snubbed the Biden administration and don't even answer their calls so that right there tells you there are no major diplomatic breakthroughs coming.

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#15 2022-06-24 00:00:54

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Look at China's Belt and Road plans, they don't need a blue water Navy.   They need Djibouti, the Straits of Malacca, and the South China Sea and they are already in all 3 places and building presence.

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Diarrhetrius Brown
#16 2022-06-24 01:43:48

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Heavy stuff and I don't think the US is prepared for any of it.

Kamala Harris has the experience to handle Russia and the Chinese.

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#17 2022-06-24 01:59:49

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Diarrhetrius Brown wrote:

Kamala Harris has the experience to handle Russia and the Chinese.

Could you even imagine that clown on the same stage as Xi, Putin, Saudi Prince, or any other serious national leader?

What a joke the US has become.  All we have is overwhelming military might that we dare not use against them.

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#18 2022-06-24 02:24:09

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RockHardConservative
#19 2022-06-24 02:34:28

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wow biden is a clown

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VP_Spiro_T_Cheney
#20 2022-06-24 02:48:58

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Look at China's Belt and Road plans, they don't need a blue water Navy.   They need Djibouti, the Straits of Malacca, and the South China Sea and they are already in all 3 places and building presence.

Between China and the Gulf you've got to go past Iran, India and Indonesia.  Three fuqed up and at times irrational actors, any of which could shut down the seaborne transport.

As far as belt and road, just one 20,000 TEU container ship can carry as much freight as forty 100 car freight trains

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#21 2022-06-24 03:01:19

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VP_Spiro_T_Cheney wrote:

Between China and the Gulf you've got to go past Iran, India and Indonesia.  Three fuqed up and at times irrational actors, any of which could shut down the seaborne transport.

As far as belt and road, just one 20,000 TEU container ship can carry as much freight as forty 100 car freight trains

All 3 of those are very friendly to China and either aloof or anti-American.

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#22 2022-06-24 03:17:59

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Russia gonna Russia.

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#23 2022-06-24 03:21:34

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Russia gonna Russia.

China is the one to watch.   They are building one hell of a Navy and military presence in their area of influence.

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#24 2022-06-24 03:48:21

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Russia gonna Russia.

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/stat … 5331739649

Mostly, that means they're talking a lot of shyt, even as their armed forces have failed to win a war they thought they would win in 3 days.

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VP_Spiro_T_Cheney
#25 2022-06-24 04:00:58

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All 3 of those are very friendly to China and either aloof or anti-American.

facepalm

Holy fuq are you deluded. 

The Indian Army is in a constant state of low intensity border war with China in the Himalayas and in addition to centuries of racial, cultural and social mutual dislike, Indonesia is bickering with China over territorial waters in the South China Sea.

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