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> Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

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John q public
#1 2010-08-16 18:56:45

Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/17/world … r=1&hp

KABUL, Afghanistan ? The Taliban on Sunday ordered their first public executions by stoning since their fall from power nine years ago, killing a young couple who had unsuccessfully tried to elope, according to Afghan officials and an eyewitness.


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The punishment was carried out by hundreds of the victims? neighbors and even their family members in a village in northern Kunduz Province, according to Nadir Khan, 40, a local farmer and Taliban sympathizer, who was interviewed by telephone.

As a Taliban mullah prepared to read the judgment of a religious ?court,? Mr. Khan said the lovers, a 25-year-old man named Khayyam and a 19-year-old woman named Siddiqa, defiantly confessed in public to their relationship.

?They said, ?We love each other no matter what happens,? ? Mr. Khan said.

The executions were the latest in a series of cases where the Taliban have imposed their harsh version of Shariah law for social crimes, reminiscent of their behavior during their decade-long rule of the country. In recent years Taliban officials have sought to play down their bloody punishments of the past as they concentrated on building up popular support.

?We see it as a sign of a new confidence on the part of the Taliban in the application of their rules, like they did in the ?90s,? said Nader Nadery, a senior commissioner on Afghanistan?s Independent Human Rights Commission. ?We do see it as a trend, they?re showing more strength in recent months, not just in attacks, but including their own way of implementing laws, arbitrary and extrajudicial killings.?

The stoning deaths, along with similarly brazen attacks in northern Afghanistan, were also a sign of growing Taliban strength in parts of the country where until recently they had been weak or absent. In their home regions in southern Afghanistan, Mr. Nadery said, the Taliban have already been cracking down.

?We?ve seen a big increase in intimidation of women and more strict rules on women,? he said.

Perhaps most worrisome were signs of support for the action from mainstream religious authorities in Afghanistan. The head of the Ulema Council in Kunduz Province, Mawlawi Abdul Yaqub, interviewed by telephone, said Monday that stoning to death was the appropriate punishment for an illegal sexual relationship, although he declined to give his view on this particular case.

And less than a week earlier, the national Ulema Council brought together 350 religious scholars in a meeting with government religious officials, who issued a joint statement Aug. 10 calling for more punishment under Shariah, apparently referring to stoning, amputations and lashings.

Failure to implement such ?Islamic provisions,? the council statement said, was hindering the peace process and encouraging crime.

The controversy could have implications for efforts by Afghan officials to reconcile with Taliban leaders and draw them into power-sharing talks. Afghan officials, supported by Western countries, have insisted Taliban leaders would have to accept the Afghan Constitution, which guarantees women?s rights, and not expect a return to Shariah law. Moderate supporters of the Taliban have said they would not make a return to Shariah law a condition of their participation.

The stoning deaths were confirmed by Afghan officials in the area on Monday. Mahbubullah Sayedi, a spokesman for the Kunduz governor?s office, condemned the executions, and said there was ample provision in Afghan law for prosecuting someone if they were accused of adultery or other social crimes. ?We have courts here, and we can solve such cases through our judicial organizations,? he said. ?This act is against human rights and against our national Constitution.?

The couple eloped when Mr. Khayyam was unable to persuade family members to allow him to marry the young woman, identified by authorities only by her first name, Siddiqa. Siddiqa was engaged to marry a relative of her lover, but was unwilling to do so, according to Mr. Khan.

Mohammed Ayub, the governor of nearby Imam Sahib district, also confirmed the stoning deaths, which took place in the local bazaar in Mullah Quli village, in Archi District, a remote corner of Kunduz Province close to Tajikistan.

?The problem is that almost 30 percent of Archi District area is under Taliban control so it is hard for our government forces to go to some of those places,? Mr. Sayedi said

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Zathrus
#2 2010-08-16 19:00:03

Re: Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

Wow. Imagine having to watch your lover die. cry

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#3 2010-08-16 19:00:24

Re: Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

So?
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#4 2010-08-16 19:01:15

Re: Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

The forced arranged marriage system often protects women from making stupid decisions. Who's to say they're worse off than Americans are with our dysfunctional divorce ridden system?

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#5 2010-08-16 19:01:45

Re: Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

Zathrus wrote:

Wow. Imagine having to watch your lover die. cry

lol

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#6 2010-08-16 19:10:34

Re: Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

Multiculturalism! Religion of Peace! Repukes! ARRRRRRGGGHHHHHH!!!!
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Otis Fudfuqer
#7 2010-08-16 19:25:50

Re: Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

Zathrus wrote:

Wow. Imagine having to watch your lover die. cry

Imagine fagdom when muzzies take over.

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#8 2010-08-16 19:29:38

Re: Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

we need to understand why they do things like this!
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lib

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#9 2010-08-16 19:49:24

Re: Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

Well, obviously a more rational response would be to not engage these animals on any level, not let any of them emigrate to your country, etc..  Of course, our response is to have the longest war in US history without any set goals that is destined to fail.  We are completely mittens

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Online_Again
#10 2010-08-16 19:55:39

Re: Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

Zathrus wrote:

Wow. Imagine having to watch your lover die. cry

Most posters here would probably get a massive boner juat watching.

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#11 2010-08-16 19:58:51

Re: Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

It's all our fault for not catering to themb more!
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#12 2010-08-16 20:00:17

Re: Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

The real crime was that the girl was 19. Most Muslims believe a woman is a spinster by 10.

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#13 2010-08-16 20:02:39

Re: Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

Once we build a Mosque at ground zero, everything will be better!
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#14 2010-08-16 20:06:47

Re: Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

christians used to do the exact same thing 400 years ago!
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#15 2010-08-16 20:15:32

Re: Afghan Couple Stoned to Death on Taliban Orders. From the good war comes a good story.

Its a funny thing liberals all support MUslims but Muslims would kill liberals for their beliefs, example Gay right death, women lib death, womens dress death, free sex death, prostitution death. drinking and grugd death, Jesus Muslims are against everything Liberals stand for but yet Liberals suport them nothing like shooting yourselves in the foot when the Muslims get here.  OH I almost forgot the main one most libs are athiest= Death.

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