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SamplesBoiThat's a lot of coin for a 200 year old technology (for the modern coking type, longer for older types). Assuming it is a blast furnace.
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Won’t start production until 2030 
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SamplesBoiJFK announced the goal of the moon in 1961 and it didn't happen until 1969.
Trump is greater than JFK! 
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Phillip_McCavityIts called Foxxconn 2!
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anon user #3Wow. I guess he actually sort of did something positive to help workers. Good to see. Much better than removing polling places, taking food away from kids, making students pay more to go to college, etc.
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SamplesBoiI think for strategic reasons we need the steel capacity.
Pure economic theory says we do not if we can buy it more cheaply elsewhere, but that ignores the consequences of warfare and great power competition. This is the reason we need rare earths too. China doesn't give a fuq about economic theory and won't sell them to us at market rates or any rates whenever they want to use it as coercion. Economic theory goes all to hell under many circumstances like this.
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Iowa has no iron ore, no coking coal and no ship transport. There is a reason the big U.S. steel mills are located ON the Great Lakes. Transport costs will make this the least cost competitive plant on earth.
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This plant is operated & owned by Wogs?
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This plant is operated & owned by Wogs?
Irony: all those red state whytes who voted for Trump because they hate brown people lose their farms end up working for :apu:
And yeah, he’s gonna pay blue collar workers $100K/yr
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So, another project that will be dropped half finished within months of breaking ground?
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SamplesBoi wrote:
I think for strategic reasons we need the steel capacity.
Pure economic theory says we do not if we can buy it more cheaply elsewhere, but that ignores the consequences of warfare and great power competition. This is the reason we need rare earths too. China doesn't give a fuq about economic theory and won't sell them to us at market rates or any rates whenever they want to use it as coercion. Economic theory goes all to hell under many circumstances like this.
But the GDP!
How can you ignore the GDP? I endorsed slavery and organ farms because of the GDP.
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SockpuppetSamplesBoi wrote:
I think for strategic reasons we need the steel capacity.
Pure economic theory says we do not if we can buy it more cheaply elsewhere, but that ignores the consequences of warfare and great power competition. This is the reason we need rare earths too. China doesn't give a fuq about economic theory and won't sell them to us at market rates or any rates whenever they want to use it as coercion. Economic theory goes all to hell under many circumstances like this.
I’ve explained over and over to this board that economics is not a science.
Humans aren’t econs.
I am glad you learned from me.
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Iowa has no iron ore, no coking coal and no ship transport. There is a reason the big U.S. steel mills are located ON the Great Lakes. Transport costs will make this the least cost competitive plant on earth.
What makes you think the plant will be built?
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You won’t get a steel plant, you’ll get another IT body shop.
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Sockpuppetwrote:
But the GDP!
How can you ignore the GDP? I endorsed slavery and organ farms because of the GDP.
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Nice link.
You really beat the shyt out of that strawman though.
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Irony: all those red state whytes who voted for Trump because they hate brown people lose their farms end up working for :apu:
And yeah, he’s gonna pay blue collar workers $100K/yr
If this plant is brought to life, they won’t be hiring Americans. They’ll import cheap labor the owners can abuse.
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If this plant is brought to life, they won’t be hiring Americans. They’ll import cheap labor the owners can abuse.
This, sadly.
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VP_Spiro_T_Cheneywrote:
If this plant is brought to life, they won’t be hiring Americans. They’ll import cheap labor the owners can abuse.
Why won’t they be able to abuse American workers? You think union-busting Republicans are going to stop them? Or maybe the Epstein class will suddenly come out for workers rights?
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You won’t get a steel plant, you’ll get another IT body shop.

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SampledBoy wrote:
retardo.gif JFK announced the goal of the moon in 1961 and it didn't happen until 1969.
Trump is greater than JFK!
Kennedy said "before the decade is over" idiot
And it came to pass in 1969 BEFORE THE DECADE WAS OVER!
Even a pile of shyt is greater than Trump asshole 
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Phillip_McCavityI did the research!
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Iowa has no iron ore, no coking coal and no ship transport. There is a reason the big U.S. steel mills are located ON the Great Lakes. Transport costs will make this the least cost competitive plant on earth.
No coal required, the plant will use an EAF.
Ore pellets will be transported from MN via BNSF.
If this plant is brought to life, they won’t be hiring Americans. They’ll import cheap labor the owners can abuse.
They already have an agreement with all the unions.
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Phillip_McCavityHere is the real problem,. What Trump announced isn't that the plant will be built, but that it will be paid for by the US taxpayer.
In other words, the company couldn't find private financing for it, so they went to the US government for help.
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Baggers=DeadMenRantingYou know what this is?
DEI for....
It was already established that this is an industry not suitable for America anymore
It is cheap to import than to produce
My take is it will never be built. The three characters above better start learning how to utilize AI
If they are literate enough...
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VP_Spiro_T_CheneyPhillip_McCavity wrote:
I did the research!
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No coal required, the plant will use an EAF.
Ore pellets will be transported from MN via BNSF.
They already have an agreement with all the unions.
Still pricey. The Mesabi range produced taconite which is only 60 or so % iron, not pure enough for an electric arc furnace. So they’ll have to ship all that taconite by rail (expensive) and then convert it to direct reduced iron (90% pure) using natural gas sourced from Canada (expensive).
And the electric arc furnace will require a new power plant, probably also Canadian natural gas powered (expensive).
Rail is expensive compared to shipping, That’s why the large steel mills were built along the Great Lakes. Cheap bulk freight, easy access to raw materials.
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Let’s be honest about this shyt… if there were actually private capital willing to risk their own money I’d say go right ahead but that’s not what this is. At best it’ll be a taxpayer funded pork barrel scam and most likely it’s just another empty vote-buying promise like the DOGE dividends, the tariff rebates or the $5,000 checks.
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