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SamplesBoi
#1 Yesterday 02:44:08

NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

That's a lot of coin for a 200 year old technology (for the modern coking type, longer for older types).  Assuming it is a blast furnace.

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#2 Yesterday 03:05:13

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

Won’t start production until 2030 lol

tardtrump3.png

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SamplesBoi
#3 Yesterday 03:26:00

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

JFK announced the goal of the moon in 1961 and it didn't happen until 1969.

Trump is greater than JFK! 

mittens

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Phillip_McCavity
#4 Yesterday 03:58:33

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

Its called Foxxconn 2!

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anon user #3
#5 Yesterday 04:01:26

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

Wow.  I guess he actually sort of did something positive to help workers.  Good to see.  Much better than removing polling places, taking food away from kids, making students pay more to go to college, etc.

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SamplesBoi
#6 Yesterday 04:12:35

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

I think for strategic reasons we need the steel capacity.

Pure economic theory says we do not if we can buy it more cheaply elsewhere, but that ignores the consequences of warfare and great power competition.  This is the reason we need rare earths too.  China doesn't give a fuq about economic theory and won't sell them to us at market rates or any rates whenever they want to use it as coercion.  Economic theory goes all to hell under many circumstances like this.

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#7 Yesterday 05:00:54

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

facepalm   

Iowa has no iron ore, no coking coal and no ship transport.  There is a reason the big U.S. steel mills are located ON the Great Lakes.  Transport costs will make this the least cost competitive plant on earth.

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#8 Yesterday 05:15:52

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

This plant is operated & owned by Wogs?

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#9 Yesterday 05:32:28

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

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This plant is operated & owned by Wogs?

Irony:  all those red state whytes who voted for Trump because they hate brown people lose their farms end up working for :apu:

And yeah, he’s gonna pay blue collar workers $100K/yr

snicker

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#10 Yesterday 07:50:44

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

So, another project that will be dropped half finished  within months of breaking ground?

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#11 Yesterday 08:05:23

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

SamplesBoi wrote:

I think for strategic reasons we need the steel capacity.

Pure economic theory says we do not if we can buy it more cheaply elsewhere, but that ignores the consequences of warfare and great power competition.  This is the reason we need rare earths too.  China doesn't give a fuq about economic theory and won't sell them to us at market rates or any rates whenever they want to use it as coercion.  Economic theory goes all to hell under many circumstances like this.

But the GDP!

How can you ignore the GDP?  I endorsed slavery and organ farms because of the GDP.
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trev

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Sockpuppet
#12 Yesterday 13:44:33

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

SamplesBoi wrote:

I think for strategic reasons we need the steel capacity.

Pure economic theory says we do not if we can buy it more cheaply elsewhere, but that ignores the consequences of warfare and great power competition.  This is the reason we need rare earths too.  China doesn't give a fuq about economic theory and won't sell them to us at market rates or any rates whenever they want to use it as coercion.  Economic theory goes all to hell under many circumstances like this.

I’ve explained over and over to this board that economics is not a science.

Humans aren’t econs.

I am glad you learned from me.

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#13 Yesterday 13:50:10

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

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facepalm   

Iowa has no iron ore, no coking coal and no ship transport.  There is a reason the big U.S. steel mills are located ON the Great Lakes.  Transport costs will make this the least cost competitive plant on earth.

What makes you think the plant will be built?

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#14 Yesterday 13:51:17

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

You won’t get a steel plant, you’ll get another IT body shop.

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Sockpuppet
#15 Yesterday 13:57:29

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But the GDP!

How can you ignore the GDP?  I endorsed slavery and organ farms because of the GDP.
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trev

Nice link.


You really beat the shyt out of that strawman though.

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#16 Yesterday 18:36:47

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wrote:

Irony:  all those red state whytes who voted for Trump because they hate brown people lose their farms end up working for :apu:

And yeah, he’s gonna pay blue collar workers $100K/yr

snicker

If this plant is brought to life, they won’t be hiring Americans.  They’ll import cheap labor the owners can abuse.

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#17 Yesterday 18:49:45

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If this plant is brought to life, they won’t be hiring Americans.  They’ll import cheap labor the owners can abuse.

This, sadly.

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VP_Spiro_T_Cheney
#18 Yesterday 19:36:41

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If this plant is brought to life, they won’t be hiring Americans.  They’ll import cheap labor the owners can abuse.

Why won’t they be able to abuse American workers?  You think union-busting Republicans are going to stop them?  Or maybe the Epstein class will suddenly come out for workers rights?

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#19 Yesterday 19:39:13

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You won’t get a steel plant, you’ll get another IT body shop.

lol

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#20 Yesterday 20:04:13

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

SampledBoy wrote:

retardo.gif   JFK announced the goal of the moon in 1961 and it didn't happen until 1969.

Trump is greater than JFK! 

mittens

Kennedy said "before the decade is over" idiot

And it came to pass in 1969 BEFORE THE DECADE WAS OVER!

Even a pile of shyt is greater than Trump asshole

grin

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Phillip_McCavity
#21 Yesterday 21:02:39

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

I did the research!
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winner


Iowa has no iron ore, no coking coal and no ship transport.  There is a reason the big U.S. steel mills are located ON the Great Lakes.  Transport costs will make this the least cost competitive plant on earth.

No coal required, the plant will use an EAF.

Ore pellets will be transported from MN via BNSF.

If this plant is brought to life, they won’t be hiring Americans.  They’ll import cheap labor the owners can abuse.

They already have an agreement with all the unions.

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Phillip_McCavity
#22 Yesterday 21:04:08

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

Here is the real problem,. What Trump announced isn't that the plant will be built, but that it will be paid for by the US taxpayer.

In other words, the company couldn't find private financing for it, so they went to the US government for help.

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Baggers=DeadMenRanting
#23 Yesterday 21:23:18

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

You know what this is?

DEI for....

whitetrash    cletus        doublewide

It was already established that this is an industry not suitable for America anymore

It is cheap to import than to produce

My take is it will never be built. The three characters above better start learning how to utilize AI

If they are literate enough...

lol

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VP_Spiro_T_Cheney
#24 Yesterday 22:25:37

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

I did the research!
   \
winner



No coal required, the plant will use an EAF.

Ore pellets will be transported from MN via BNSF.


They already have an agreement with all the unions.

Still pricey.  The Mesabi range produced taconite which is only 60 or so % iron, not pure enough for an electric arc furnace.  So they’ll have to ship all that taconite by rail (expensive) and then convert it to direct reduced iron (90% pure) using natural gas sourced from Canada (expensive).

And the electric arc furnace will require a new power plant, probably also Canadian natural gas powered (expensive).

Rail is expensive compared to shipping, That’s why the large steel mills were built along the Great Lakes.  Cheap bulk freight, easy access to raw materials.

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#25 Yesterday 22:34:01

Re: NBC News Trump unveils plans for a $15 billion steel mill in Iowa 3 hours ago By Garrett Haake & Rebecca Shabad

Let’s be honest about this shyt… if there were actually private capital willing to risk their own money I’d say go right ahead but that’s not what this is.  At best it’ll be a taxpayer funded pork barrel scam and most likely it’s just another empty vote-buying promise like the DOGE dividends, the tariff rebates or the $5,000 checks.

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