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Samples_Boi
#1 2026-06-27 23:06:01

Paul Krugman agrees that Spanky is an awful person

Get rid of twitter embeds and sell that stock.

Excerpt: Musk is a horrible, terrible person and has the blood of millions of children on his hands. Let’s be clear. Yes, it’s not something that has been proven, but it’s close to. It’s so overwhelmingly likely that it clearly has to be true. And he’s also a weak personality — very much like Trump again — he can’t take criticism, he can’t admit error. So what does it say ultimately about our society that so many people are willing to throw money at this guy and that they’re so willing to forgive the incredible failures that he carried out, the incredible disaster of his time in a position of public responsibility. And I don’t really know the answer to that.

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On Holding Elon Musk Accountable
Why aren't we talking more about DOGE?
Paul Krugman
Jun 27, 2026


For most of last year, Elon Musk was the second most powerful man in America. He was running a large part of the government’s budget. And during that time, he established a track record of evil incompetence. I mean, really evil and really incompetent on enormous scales. And why aren’t people talking about it more?

Hi, I’m Paul Krugman, doing a brief follow-on to my discussion that was posted earlier today with Ro Khanna, the Congressman from Silicon Valley, who’s a very interesting guy in many ways.

One of the things that has made him especially interesting in the last few days is that he said something entirely reasonable, which is that if Democrats retake Congress, they should hold investigations into the role of Elon Musk as head of DOGE, the sort of not exactly but effectively government agency, in destroying USAID, the agency that was the principal channel for aid to the most desperate, poorest people in the world.

That’s entirely reasonable, and Khanna went on to say that there are credible estimates that the cancellation, the destruction of Doge has led to millions of unnecessary deaths, including millions of children — which is exactly true. There are studies that say that there is both in the field evidence of widespread death as a result of the cancellation and, of course reasonable health models. Because what do you think happens when you cut away tens of billions of dollars of aid to people who are living right on the edge? So of course it’s a reasonable thing to say.

Musk, of course, responded not by saying, no, it’s not true or something like that. He did say that not a single person has died because of those cuts, which is utterly implausible. But he also went on to say that he was going to sue Khanna, though he hasn’t actually so far, and that Khanna should be in prison for saying — not even saying that Musk killed people, but that there are studies that say that he killed people.

It’s quite evil and so much for free speech. Musk is very much like Trump, somebody who can dish it out but can’t take it, can’t even handle the kind of criticism that any public figure should expect to receive. Honestly, you shouldn’t be at all in the public domain unless you’re prepared to deal with a lot of insults and accusations. When you have the kind of role that Musk did that would come with the package even if he had done a decent or non-catastrophic job.

But of course he didn’t. And so let’s talk first about the evil.

It’s not just that Musk more or less personally set out to destroy this aid agency set out to cut off healthcare, nutritional assistance, just basic necessities of life for millions and millions of extremely desperate people. But he did so callously, carelessly, he even actually tweeted out, oh, “I just fed USAID to the wood chipper and I could have gone to some great parties instead.”

What can you say? This is an extraordinarily evil act. It came in the context of somebody who made enormous promises about what he was going to do. People have kind of forgotten that Musk came into DOGE promising to find trillions of dollars in waste, which he would eliminate, none of which happened. Overall, it’s pretty clear that DOGE actually worsened the budget deficit at least a little bit.

He also made specific claims along the way, most notably his claim that there were something like 20 million dead people receiving Social Security benefits. That was because the 19-year-olds that he put in positions of great influence, the Muskrats, whatever you want to call them, didn’t understand government databases. You know, you get parachuted into an agency with access to the computer system but absolutely no knowledge of what the agency does or how it does it and then couple that with a kind of arrogance — believing that these people must all be stupid and I can just sit down for a day or two with their data and find vast waste and fraud.

Well, nobody in a position of responsibility should believe that kind of thing.

It’s possible that Big Balls and his other hench people actually believed that they knew what they were doing. But my god, if you’re put in charge of a hugely important government function, you don’t assume that everybody there is an idiot and that your neophyte attaches have somehow stumbled on things that nobody else noticed.

And of course, Social Security is so pervasive, such a large part of everybody’s life, that the idea that there could be tens of millions of dead beneficiaries and nobody has noticed it, that’s completely crazy. You even wonder, did Musk really believe that? Does he even have a notion that some things are true and some things are not?

But in any case, there you are. And so it was a total disaster. He left the government not, clearly not because Trump thought that he was too extreme, too bad a guy, but because it was so clear that he did not know what he was doing.

And the reports of alleged savings from DOGE: it was starting to get embarrassing because it was so easy for news organizations to find out that the claims were utterly false, that none of what they claimed was happening was actually happening.

So he left. and then he goes back to his companies and becomes at least temporarily a trillionaire with an enormous public offering. Why didn’t people think that his record with enormous public responsibility was somehow relevant to his financial future?

I mean, if a guy who can convince himself that there are 20 million dead Social Security recipients, who can convince himself that you can massively slash foreign aid and it’s all waste and fraud and nobody will be hurt — why would you trust that person to run a company? And furthermore, the character flaws that are revealed here — flaws is what too weak a word, but anyway — when you have somebody who refuses to acknowledge uncomfortable reality, refuses to acknowledge error, who responds to any perfectly truthful statement that reflects badly on him by saying, I want that guy put in jail. — those are not the character traits that make for an effective manager. If you can’t accept that you are ever wrong, how are you ever going to get things right?

Because things will go wrong, and you will make mistakes. We all do. So all of this seems terribly relevant, and yet it says something, I guess, about America that people piled in to SpaceX stock, although some of that has come off now. It really was clearly an early frenzy, a fear of missing out frenzy.

There are now reports that SpaceX also sold bonds, which itself is a little troubling. Why should they be needing to go into debt right away? What is that about? And those bonds have already lost some of their value, which is much more serious than the stock coming down. When bonds lose value, that’s because people think that there is now a risk that this company might default, might not be able to honor its promises. So seeing those bonds start to trade at a discount almost immediately is a pretty bad sign for the company. But again, why did anybody believe any of this?

Musk is a horrible, terrible person and has the blood of millions of children on his hands. Let’s be clear. Yes, it’s not something that has been proven, but it’s close to. It’s so overwhelmingly likely that it clearly has to be true. And he’s also a weak personality — very much like Trump again — he can’t take criticism, he can’t admit error. So what does it say ultimately about our society that so many people are willing to throw money at this guy and that they’re so willing to forgive the incredible failures that he carried out, the incredible disaster of his time in a position of public responsibility. And I don’t really know the answer to that.

There’s a real question about how it is we got at our current age of irresponsible oligarchs and with so little public backlash. And it’s starting to develop. But still, the fact that Elon Musk is still in business, let alone the world’s richest man, is in some sense an indictment of all of us.

On that happy note, take care.

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#2 2026-06-27 23:06:41

Re: Paul Krugman agrees that Spanky is an awful person

kill yourself olg

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Sockpuppet
#3 2026-06-27 23:08:41

Re: Paul Krugman agrees that Spanky is an awful person

I’ve never given Elon Musk any money AFAIK.

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Samples_Boi
#4 2026-06-27 23:10:01

Re: Paul Krugman agrees that Spanky is an awful person

Sockpuppet wrote:

I’ve never given Elon Musk any money AFAIK.

Liar.

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#5 2026-06-27 23:13:41

Re: Paul Krugman agrees that Spanky is an awful person

In 1998, Paul Krugman said that the internet's impact on the world would be no greater than the fax machine.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/paul- … t-economy/


Then in 2002, Paul Krugman advised the Fed to create a housing bubble.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/paul-krugman_n_3118069


The guy is a fuqing idiot.

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Samples_Boi
#6 2026-06-27 23:23:17

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wrote:

The guy is a fuqing idiot.
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Jurijknotpeemus
#7 2026-06-27 23:31:14

Re: Paul Krugman agrees that Spanky is an awful person

Know!! Spankee is fren

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Sockpuppet
#8 Yesterday 00:40:53

Re: Paul Krugman agrees that Spanky is an awful person

Samples_Boi wrote:

Liar.

Link?

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Samples_Boi
#9 Yesterday 01:18:39

Re: Paul Krugman agrees that Spanky is an awful person

Sockpuppet wrote:

Link?

fuqyou

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Sockpuppet
#10 Yesterday 01:36:15

Re: Paul Krugman agrees that Spanky is an awful person

Samples_Boi wrote:

fuqyou

I accept your defeat.

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Samples_Boi
#11 Yesterday 02:10:53

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Sockpuppet wrote:

I accept your defeat.

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#12 Yesterday 10:33:41

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I am an autistic faggot
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Samples_Boi
#13 Yesterday 16:48:28

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wrote:

I am an autistic fot
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Holy cow, that's a higher quality photo than I think I have ever seen.

Speaking of autism, it looks like some stalker saved the original photos and filed them away 15 years ago for this one moment. stunned

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Samples_Boi
#14 Yesterday 16:57:13

Re: Paul Krugman agrees that Spanky is an awful person

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/04/opin … onomy.html

But how wrong was I, really, about the internet’s economic impact? Or, since this shouldn’t be about me, have the past few decades generally vindicated visionaries who asserted that information technology would change everything? Or have they vindicated techno-skeptics like the economist Robert Gordon, who argued in a 2016 book that the innovations of the late 20th and early 21st century were far less fundamental than those between 1870 and 1940?

Well, by the numbers, the skeptics have won the argument, hands down.

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Sockpuppet
#15 Yesterday 18:52:07

Re: Paul Krugman agrees that Spanky is an awful person

Samples_Boi wrote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/04/opinion/internet-economy.html

But how wrong was I, really, about the internet’s economic impact? Or, since this shouldn’t be about me, have the past few decades generally vindicated visionaries who asserted that information technology would change everything? Or have they vindicated techno-skeptics like the economist Robert Gordon, who argued in a 2016 book that the innovations of the late 20th and early 21st century were far less fundamental than those between 1870 and 1940?

Well, by the numbers, the skeptics have won the argument, hands down.

Well, I mean, obviously the fundamental stuff is going to come first. So that is a dumb statement.

But he is right that the advances on the fundamentals could have gone a different direction. But bagger policy ruined that possibility. Greed was encouraged and therefore we got Twitter instead of cures to complicated diseases.

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Samples_Boi
#16 Yesterday 22:17:47

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Sockpuppet wrote:

Greed was encouraged and therefore we got Twitter instead of cures to complicated diseases.

Get rid of twitter embeds.

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SamplesBoi
#17 Today 00:39:35

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#18 Today 00:59:11

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SamplesBoi wrote:

FuqYouHobo.jpg

Ask it to animate a gif where he's yelling and flipping.

I tried with Copilot and it told me to fuq off due to "violence and obscenity".

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#19 Today 07:45:04

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Just imagine how many dive bartenders and their families perished because OLG used the "dollar pile trick" to avoid tipping. I bet it rivals the Zodiac Killer, folks. sadwave

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Samples_Boi
#20 Today 07:53:02

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wrote:

Just imagine how many dive bartenders and their families perished because OLG used the "dollar pile trick" to avoid tipping. I bet it rivals the Zodiac Killer, folks. sadwave

Yes, but think about how many impoverished Koreans were kept employed making Kimchee flavoring... chinese

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#21 Today 10:33:41

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Millions of dollars to Politico was feeding starving children!
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