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Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
Microsoft 365 is $100/yr, or $1,000 over a 10-yr period.
Most people just need Word & Excel, and would be better off buying MS Office Home. It's a $180 one-time fee on Amazon.com. You can get the price down to $30 one-time fee if you just search for Microsoft Office lifetime license discount.
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But the worst part about Microsoft 365 is that it has to validate the license once every 30 days. This means that in a disaster situation (war, civil war, power grid & internet go down, working in remote areas, etc) your Word & Excel programs will stop working when you need them the most.
On the other hand, MS Office Home will work offline forever.
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TurboTax is another ridiculous ripoff, with deceptive pricing & dark patterns. The average TurboTax user is paying $100+ every year just to file federal & state taxes.
FreeTaxUSA.com is a better deal (free federal, $16 for state).
https://www.campidiot.com/viewtopic.php?id=1469906
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.,Re: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
TurboTax/Intuit can automatically import basically all of my accounts, also keeps a record of my history. Worth it just to save time and be done with it.
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Re: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
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TurboTax/Intuit can automatically import basically all of my accounts, also keeps a record of my history. Worth it just to save time and be done with it.
I've used both TurboTax and FreeTaxUSA, and FreeTaxUSA was a lot easier.
20 years ago, TurboTax was ok.
But over the years, the enshyttification got worse & worse, with deceptive pricing, non-stop upsell harrassment, dark patterns, etc.
I'm never going back to TurboTax.
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Re: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
That 'freetaxusa' thing is supposedly all 'in the cloud'. No thanks.
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Re: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
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That 'freetaxusa' thing is supposedly all 'in the cloud'. No thanks.
Unless you're printing & mailing your tax returns, everything is in the cloud anyway.
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JurijknotpeemusRe: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
I will have lewp
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Re: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
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Unless you're printing & mailing your tax returns, everything is in the cloud anyway.
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BLECCCccch we have all your shyt anyway so you might as well just give in. Kekekekekekeke
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Re: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
I appreciate and likely agree with the premise(s) of your thread, OP. Two points though:
1) I don't think anyone is going to care much about Word or Excel in a real disaster situation
2) What do you mean by "dark patterns"? [Nevermind, I looked it up. Makes sense]
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Re: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
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1) I don't think anyone is going to care much about Word or Excel in a real disaster situation
Let's say that in a cyberwarfare scenario, the internet becomes unusable for many months.
I'll still be using Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and my laser printer.
It'll just be like when I was an investment banking analyst in the early & mid 1990s. Our office computers did not have internet access. But we did have Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and laser printers. We also used landline phones to communicate. Life was fine.
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SamplesBoiRe: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
I used FreeTaxUSA.com for federal and just wrote out the online sheet for Illinois. Illinois has a simple tax structure.
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SockpuppetRe: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
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TurboTax/Intuit can automatically import basically all of my accounts, also keeps a record of my history. Worth it just to save time and be done with it.
This.
Cheapskates never get away with being cheap.
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SockpuppetRe: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
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Unless you're printing & mailing your tax returns, everything is in the cloud anyway.
No it isn’t. You are arguing now for the M365 model you earlier shat on.
I buy the desktop version of TurboTax every year. I save the software and my TurboTax files every year. So I have them locally forever.
I also back them up to OneDrive from M365.
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SockpuppetRe: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
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Let's say that in a cyberwarfare scenario, the internet becomes unusable for many months.
I'll still be using Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and my laser printer.
It'll just be like when I was an investment banking analyst in the early & mid 1990s. Our office computers did not have internet access. But we did have Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and laser printers. We also used landline phones to communicate. Life was fine.
Why would you be using PowerPoint during a global catastrophe.
If “the internet” is gone for 3 months it will approach societal collapse?
Will you still be doing street corner presentations on how you out-smarted the Jews and can still can give antisemitic presentations?
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SockpuppetRe: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
Also, you are retarded if you think M365 is only valuable because of Word and Excel.
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SamplesBoiRe: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
Sockpuppet wrote:
Why would you be using PowerPoint during a global catastrophe.
If “the internet” is gone for 3 months it will approach societal collapse?
Will you still be doing street corner presentations on how you out-smarted the Jews and can still can give antisemitic presentations?
All I can say is my 3D printer better not die because of the cloud disappearing because I am going to get rich during the Zombie Apocalypse printing AR-15s and Glocks. 
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Re: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
Sockpuppet wrote:
This.
Cheapskates never get away with being cheap.
FreeTaxUSA imports via PDFs, and keeps a record of your taxes.
Since I download all my 1099 PDFs anyway, there was no time penalty for using FreeTaxUSA.
In fact, overall FreeTaxUSA was faster, since the UI is much cleaner & simpler.
TurboTax has far more visual clutter, deceptive pricing, non-stop upsell harrassment, dark patterns, etc.
I've used both TurboTax & FreeTaxUSA.
You have not, so you can't make a honest comparison.
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Sockpuppet wrote:
Also, you are retarded if you think M365 is only valuable because of Word and Excel.
Out of all the MS Office products, most people only need Word & Excel.
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Re: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
Sockpuppet wrote:
Why would you be using PowerPoint during a global catastrophe.
If “the internet” is gone for 3 months it will approach societal collapse?
No, we'll just be back to 1994 life.
My office computer did not have internet access, but it did have Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and was connected to a laser printer.
And yet, I was still doing billion dollar deals on private jets, with Fortune 500 CEOs.
I only started getting internet access on my home & office computers in 1996.
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.,Re: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
Sockpuppet wrote:
Why would you be using PowerPoint during a global catastrophe.
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My first thought - who the fuq's first instinct is to worry about a fuqing PowerPoint presentation if the world collapses 
We need the numbers summarized into a table by close of business
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Re: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
Sockpuppet wrote:
I save the software and my TurboTax files every year. So I have them locally forever.
I also back them up to OneDrive from M365.
I have 20+ years of tax return PDFs, stored in a VeraCrypt container, backed up to external USB HD and Google Drive.
Whether you use TurboTax or FreeTaxUSA, you can download & save a PDF of your tax return.
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Re: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
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My first thought - who the fuq's first instinct is to worry about a fuqing PowerPoint presentation if the world collapses
Internet going down does not mean "world collapses".
It just means going back to 1994 way of doing business.
I'll still meet with Fortune 500 CEOs with my pitchbook, with bullet points, spreadsheets, and powerpoint diagrams, all printed out.
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Phillip_McCavityRe: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
I stopped using H&R Blockhead because:
1. They got my tax return wrong and cost me money. When I tried to correct the problem, it got worse.
2. They don't even give you PDFs of all the forms they send in.
3. They are hideously expensive. I spent nearly $800 for them to do my incorrect taxes last year. No more.
FreeTaxUSA did seem to get my tax return right. They had a lot of difficulty uploading some of my tax forms, but I just entered the data by hand.
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Re: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
Phillip_McCavity wrote:
2. They don't even give you PDFs of all the forms they send in.
Did you ask H&R Block for the tax return PDF?
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SockpuppetRe: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
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Out of all the MS Office products, most people only need Word & Excel.
Most people don’t know what they need until they are shown what they need.
You, per usual, lack any sort of theory of mind and assume everyone views the world like you.
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SockpuppetRe: Microsoft 365 and TurboTax are both ridiculous scams.
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No, we'll just be back to 1994 life.
My office computer did not have internet access, but it did have Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and was connected to a laser printer.
And yet, I was still doing billion dollar deals on private jets, with Fortune 500 CEOs.
I only started getting internet access on my home & office computers in 1996.
You really aren’t very bright.
How will you communicate without the internet?
The POTS system doesn’t exist anymore.
How will most businesses operate? Most are dependent on the Internet and most wouldn’t know how to operate without it.
You will have societal breakdown before you rebuild.
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