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#1 2023-01-25 01:02:48

Is Ukraine being carved up and split between Russia and NATO?

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VP_Spiro_T_Cheney
#2 2023-01-25 01:14:58

Re: Is Ukraine being carved up and split between Russia and NATO?

The same way NATO "carved up and split" Europe along the dividing line of the Iron Curtain?  One side free nations, the other side KGB-ruled dictatorship?

snicker

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#3 2023-01-25 01:27:57

Re: Is Ukraine being carved up and split between Russia and NATO?

VP_Spiro_T_Cheney wrote:

The same way NATO "carved up and split" Europe along the dividing line of the Iron Curtain?  One side free nations, the other side KGB-ruled dictatorship?

snicker

Well yeah that is pretty much how things ended after WW2.   This may very well be the same process.   I have thought from the beginning Russia would get it all the way to the Dniper river and the Black Sea coast and it looks likely.   NATO and the US will have a welfare state on the other side to take care of and of course build military bases.

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#4 2023-01-25 01:31:39

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I have thought from the beginning Russia would get it all the way to the Dniper river and the Black Sea coast and it looks likely.

What makes this look likely?

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#5 2023-01-25 01:47:48

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What makes this look likely?

After a few years everyone gets tired and the settlement is negotiated and it ends like that.

It would give a nice buffer zone between 2 bitter enemies, just like the DMZ the US put in place in Korea.   It works.

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#6 2023-01-25 01:49:18

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After a few years everyone gets tired and the settlement is negotiated and it ends like that.

It would give a nice buffer zone between 2 bitter enemies, just like the DMZ the US put in place in Korea.   It works.

You avoided the question as expected.

Russia is about to have a very bad year lol

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#7 2023-01-25 01:51:38

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You avoided the question as expected.

Russia is about to have a very bad year lol

You may be right or wrong but that is how this ultimnately ends, barring an Iraq style invasion by the US.   I don't think they will go to that length with a nuclear power that can destroy them though.

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#8 2023-01-25 01:53:38

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You may be right or wrong but that is how this ultimnately ends, barring an Iraq style invasion by the US.   I don't think they will go to that length with a nuclear power that can destroy them though.

Last year was bad for Russia. This year Russia has even fewer allies and resources.

Russia has been threatening to nuke the world for decades now. The world is sick of Russia.

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#9 2023-01-25 02:00:16

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Last year was bad for Russia. This year Russia has even fewer allies and resources.

Russia has been threatening to nuke the world for decades now. The world is sick of Russia.

Wrong - the vast majority of the world refused to go along with Biden and sanctions, and Russias alliances are intact and actually growing.   The US pledged to destroy the Russian economy and likely them as a country and that may very well trigger a survival response from them if America looks like they are going to take Russia down as a functioning country.   America would do the same thing if they were invaded like that.

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#10 2023-01-25 02:02:55

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If Ukraine is on the verge of defeating the Russians, why did the US send a General to the third world to beg like this?  lol

https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/statu … %3D1358445


Ukraine is not doing as well as you think.

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#11 2023-01-25 02:05:04

Re: Is Ukraine being carved up and split between Russia and NATO?

Ukraine retook Kherson with virtually no effort shrug

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GroomerAU
#12 2023-01-25 02:06:38

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Go Russia!  woot

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#13 2023-01-25 02:06:51

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Read through the reactions to General Richardson's demands

lolchix

https://twitter.com/search?q=general%20 … &f=top

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#14 2023-01-25 02:11:00

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#15 2023-01-25 02:11:34

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Ukraine retook Kherson with virtually no effort shrug

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#16 2023-01-25 02:14:29

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https://liveuamap.com/

At the very least Russia will landlock it.

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#17 2023-01-25 02:17:04

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https://liveuamap.com/

At the very least Russia will landlock it.

They've been moving in the opposite direction for several months now.

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#18 2023-01-25 02:51:15

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The Leopard II tanks are coming from Poland. It's true that Western Ukraine used to be part of Poland, but why not go full revisionist and conquer Moscow?

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#19 2023-01-25 02:54:05

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The Leopard II tanks are coming from Poland. It's true that Western Ukraine used to be part of Poland, but why not go full revisionist and conquer Moscow?

Everyone knows what happens if you threaten the existence of Russia, that's why.

How many European and American cities would you sacrifice for it?

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#20 2023-01-25 02:55:03

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They've been moving in the opposite direction for several months now.

Not quite - there have been setbacks for them but look at the map above.   They are still very much in play here.

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#21 2023-01-25 02:55:39

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Everyone knows what happens if you threaten the existence of Russia, that's why.

Historically, nothing happens.

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#22 2023-01-25 02:58:23

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Everyone knows what happens if you threaten the existence of Russia, that's why.

How many European and American cities would you sacrifice for it?

Those in power in Moscow (Putin, Lavrov) will have their throats cut, when Russia collapses. Hopefully, Israel will follow.

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#23 2023-01-25 03:00:47

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Historically, nothing happens.

Historically, only one country has used nuclear weapons too.  lol

Idiot.

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#24 2023-01-25 03:03:14

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Historically, only one country has used nuclear weapons too.  lol

Idiot.

How many countries have been threatening to use nukes for several decades and never used them?

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#25 2023-01-25 03:13:58

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