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Phillip_McCavity
#1 2023-01-24 02:23:49

What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

https://healthfeedback.org/what-can-exp … e-in-2022/

Unsurprisingly, reports of excess mortality well into 2022 became fodder for claims by vaccine-skeptic groups that mass vaccination against COVID-19 was responsible for this increase in deaths (see here and here for examples of such social media posts). An article by the website The Exposé, published at the end of November 2022, claimed that “at least 118k children and young adults have ‘died suddenly’ in the USA” and that this was “most likely due to the Covid-19 injections”.

This is a variation of the recurring false allegations that COVID-19 vaccines are unsafe and deadly that Health Feedback debunked on multiple occasions (see here, here, and here). As we’ll show below, the claims linking vaccination to excess mortality are baseless.

To begin with, COVID-19 vaccines have been extensively tested, both during clinical trials and in real-world settings, without showing any significant vaccine-associated deaths that would explain the persistent excess mortality we’re seeing now.

Furthermore, the comparison of vaccine coverage and excess mortality numbers doesn’t suggest an association between them. If vaccination caused mortality to increase, we would expect to observe two correlations. The first is that the higher the vaccination coverage, the higher the excess mortality; the second is an increase in the number of all-cause deaths as the vaccination campaign progresses.

Before going any further, we must clarify two points. The first is that even if a correlation between vaccination coverage and excess mortality exists, this alone would be insufficient to claim that vaccination is responsible for the excess deaths. Indeed, correlation alone isn’t enough to prove causation, as Health Feedback previously explained.

However, this isn’t to say that correlation doesn’t matter at all. This brings us to our second point: if there is an absence of correlation between vaccination coverage and excess mortality, then this will strongly speak against those claims, providing that the analysis was properly designed to exclude confounding factors. Put simply, correlation is necessary but not sufficient for explaining causality.

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Phillip_McCavity
#2 2023-01-24 02:24:07

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

First, the virus SARS-CoV-2 is still circulating and epidemiological data show that COVID-19 deaths still represent a significant part of the excess mortality.

Second, the exceptional heat waves in July and August 2022 are likely to have increased the risk of death, as excess heat can lead to death directly or indirectly.

Third, the healthcare systems of many countries are still reeling from the COVID-19 pandemic. Many hospitals remain underfunded, underequipped, and understaffed, leading to suboptimal care for patients.

But one thing we do know isn’t contributing to excess mortality is COVID-19 vaccines, contrary to claims by some. As we demonstrated earlier, there’s no correlation between vaccination coverage and the amount of excess mortality, nor is excess mortality positively correlated with the deployment of public COVID-19 vaccination campaigns. Therefore, the evidence available contradicts this claim.

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#3 2023-01-24 02:47:09

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

QAnon BS

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#4 2023-01-24 02:53:57

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

Crucify vaxxers.

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#5 2023-01-24 03:18:21

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

This is a variation of the recurring false allegations that COVID-19 vaccines are unsafe and deadly that Health Feedback debunked on multiple occasions (see here, here, and here).

lol Very typical. Stamping their feet, insisting something they don't like was 'debunked', when it clearly and obviously was not.

The relentless dishonesty we all expect out of you vermin. You are unfit for, and incompatible with, civilized western nations.

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Sockpuppet
#6 2023-01-24 04:20:43

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

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Doctor Giggles
#7 2023-01-24 04:23:28

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

wrote:

lol Very typical. Stamping their feet, insisting something they don't like was 'debunked', when it clearly and obviously was not.

The relentless dishonesty we all expect out of you vermin. You are unfit for, and incompatible with, civilized western nations.
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winner

Just bullshyt, you lost this argument when you started the ad hominem attack. You have nothing no logic and no ability for critical
thinking so you lost before it began. Victory Phil!



I kicked your ass bitch! Now fuq off, I am going to beg for some pussy. Hopefully single mom is awake!
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trev

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#8 2023-01-24 06:59:50

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

QAnon BS

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#9 2023-01-24 07:13:38

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

Dunning kruger duo strikes again!

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Sockpuppet
#10 2023-01-24 07:14:25

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

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Dunning kruger duo strikes again!

That’s a personal attack. It’s not a rebuttal. Phil wins.

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Empty Maybe
#11 2023-01-24 07:17:09

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

To begin with, COVID-19 vaccines have been extensively tested

No

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#12 2023-01-24 07:17:42

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

Anti vax = QAnon BS

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#13 2023-01-24 07:29:51

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

Sockpuppet wrote:

That’s a personal attack. It’s not a rebuttal. Phil wins.

Pfhildo copied a fagger blog post and neither of us have a college degree!


Win!
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winner

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Phillip_McCavity
#14 2023-01-24 07:33:58

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

The article is brutal destruction of a conspiracy theory.

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#15 2023-01-24 07:34:55

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

Win!
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winner

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#16 2023-01-24 11:45:19

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

The article is brutal destruction of a conspiracy theory.

False.

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#17 2023-01-24 14:12:11

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

QAnon BS

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Phillip_McCavity
#18 2023-01-24 15:49:38

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

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#19 2023-01-24 18:41:34

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

Tampex has been deleting posts again.

facepalm

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Phillip_McCavity
#20 2023-01-24 18:49:32

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

Let us explain why the excess death data definitively shows it cannot be the vaccine:

1. If you compare the vaccination rates with country excess death data there is no correlation.

2. If you compare the times where the excess deaths were recorded, and the amount of vaccination coverage at that time, there is still no correlation.

3. If you look at how excess death trends with vaccination, you'll find it is in general going down. In other words, the more vaccination a country has, the lower in relative terms was excess deaths.


This shows that excess death data demonstrates the vaccine's safety.

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#21 2023-01-24 19:18:43

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

Let us explain why the excess death data definitively shows it cannot be the vaccine:

1. If you compare the vaccination rates with country excess death data there is no correlation.

2. If you compare the times where the excess deaths were recorded, and the amount of vaccination coverage at that time, there is still no correlation.

3. If you look at how excess death trends with vaccination, you'll find it is in general going down. In other words, the more vaccination a country has, the lower in relative terms was excess deaths.


This shows that excess death data demonstrates the vaccine's safety.

Dunning Kruger still undefeated.

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VP_Spiro_T_Cheney
#22 2023-01-24 20:12:20

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

No doubt some 'bag-bag will be along shortly to explain why the death rate went ELOW THE LONG TERM BASELINE in 2022 despite the fact that MORE people were vaxxed.

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Phillip_McCavity
#23 2023-01-24 20:16:42

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

VP_Spiro_T_Cheney wrote:

No doubt some 'bag-bag will be along shortly to explain why the death rate went ELOW THE LONG TERM BASELINE in 2022 despite the fact that MORE people were vaxxed.

Shows you just how illogical the antivaxxers are when they can be trivially disproven by a GED.

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#24 2023-01-24 20:39:54

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

Dunning Kruger ***intensifies***

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#25 2023-01-24 22:25:42

Re: What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

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Dunning Kruger ***intensifies***

It's a big people problem.
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