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> Very weird firearms decision from the SC

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#1 2022-06-23 19:14:07

Very weird firearms decision from the SC

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#2 2022-06-23 19:27:06

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No but weapons are specifically mentioned in the constitution.   So are freedom of speech and press.  They did not restrict those freedoms to the methods of the times, and it is curious that you are unable to understand that.

And if he wants to be an originalist and only allow muskets then we'll only allow white people to vote.

Seems like a fair trade to me.

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#3 2022-06-23 19:29:51

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And if he wants to be an originalist and only allow muskets then we'll only allow white people to vote.

Seems like a fair trade to me.

White male land owners.

woot

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Diarrhetrius Brown
#4 2022-06-23 19:37:13

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Phillip_McCavity wrote:

Many times I get the argument, whether I agree with it or not, but this one is just strange.

I understand.

Very hard to understand what it says.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

If only we had gun laws like Mexico we wouldn't have a gun problem, right?

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Phillip_McCavity
#5 2022-06-23 19:47:07

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Diarrhetrius Brown wrote:

I understand.

Very hard to understand what it says.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

If only we had gun laws like Mexico we wouldn't have a gun problem, right?

Not hard. It says the citizens can maintain military readiness (by keeping proper equipment) in an era when there was no standing army.

Since the states control who is in the militia, they can always limit it.

As for gun laws, how about Australia? After a mass shooting there, they passed sensible laws, and in fact many people voluntarily handed in their weapons.

The fact is, gun control has worked very well in places where it has been tried.

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#6 2022-06-23 19:55:31

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No but weapons are specifically mentioned in the constitution.   So are freedom of speech and press.  They did not restrict those freedoms to the methods of the times, and it is curious that you are unable to understand that.

Uneducated and dunning kruger, not surprising.

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Phillip_McCavity
#7 2022-06-23 20:29:38

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The bill of rights was there long before Heller and it has always had the same meaning.

Then why did courts interpret it differently for over 200 years?

Were previous Supreme Court justices stupid or ignorant?

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#8 2022-06-23 20:32:47

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The bill of rights was there long before Heller and it has always had the same meaning.

Yep. Any citizen could privately own a military grade weapon.

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Suck_It_Phil
#9 2022-06-23 20:33:30

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Phillip_McCavity wrote:

As for gun laws, how about Australia? After a mass shooting there, they passed sensible laws, and in fact many people voluntarily handed in their weapons.

yeah, a guy killed 20 people with a knife a few years ago.....

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#10 2022-06-23 21:50:23

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#11 2022-06-23 21:51:42

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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RockHardConservative
#12 2022-06-23 22:37:23

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Look at the libbies seethe over the correct interpretation of the 2nd Amendment!  Just look at 'em!  snicker

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RockHardConservative
#13 2022-06-23 22:39:06

Re: Very weird firearms decision from the SC

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

Not hard. It says the citizens can maintain military readiness (by keeping proper equipment) in an era when there was no standing army.

Since the states control who is in the militia, they can always limit it.

As for gun laws, how about Australia? After a mass shooting there, they passed sensible laws, and in fact many people voluntarily handed in their weapons.

The fact is, gun control has worked very well in places where it has been tried.

Nah.  The 2nd Amendment isn't about you feeling safe, it's about the government fearing the people.

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Phillip_McCavity
#14 2022-06-23 22:59:47

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RockHardConservative wrote:

Nah.  The 2nd Amendment isn't about you feeling safe, it's about the government fearing the people.

The right of the people to be safe is fundamental.

It will take a few years, but eventually we will have new judges that understand how to balance public safety.

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#15 2022-06-23 23:09:57

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Phillip_McCavity wrote:

The right of the people to be safe is fundamental.

It will take a few years, but eventually we will have new judges that understand how to balance public safety.

Ask yourself why the most violent murder capitals are where guns are outlawed.

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RockHardConservative
#16 2022-06-24 00:59:23

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Phillip_McCavity
#17 2022-06-24 01:02:26

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RockHardConservative wrote:

Quote from Heller

Why did it take the court over 200 years to make this decision?

The law they struck down today was passed in 1911. Its not like its a new idea.


Why has the law been good for over 100 years?


Seems like someone is being an activist judge.

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RockHardConservative
#18 2022-06-24 01:06:05

Re: Very weird firearms decision from the SC

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

Why did it take the court over 200 years to make this decision?

The law they struck down today was passed in 1911. Its not like its a new idea.


Why has the law been good for over 100 years?


Seems like someone is being an activist judge.

Again, not my problem.

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#19 2022-06-24 01:59:53

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Push me, shoot you.
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trump2

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#20 2022-06-24 02:01:37

Re: Very weird firearms decision from the SC

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

Why did it take the court over 200 years to make this decision?

The law they struck down today was passed in 1911. Its not like its a new idea.


Why has the law been good for over 100 years?


Seems like someone is being an activist judge.

SC judged that 2A is an INDIVDUAL right quite a while back.  I believe Scalia wrote the opinion on it.   You should go find it and learn some things before you spout your leftist nonsense.

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#21 2022-06-24 02:16:22

Re: Very weird firearms decision from the SC

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

Why did it take the court over 200 years to make this decision?

The law they struck down today was passed in 1911. Its not like its a new idea.


Why has the law been good for over 100 years?


Seems like someone is being an activist judge.

So now it's a problem but not when a faggot judge overrules a referendum by the public against faggot marriage?

Hypocrite much?

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Phillip_McCavity
#22 2022-06-24 02:43:25

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SC judged that 2A is an INDIVDUAL right quite a while back.  I believe Scalia wrote the opinion on it.   You should go find it and learn some things before you spout your leftist nonsense.

Yees, and Scalia's opinion was at odds with over 200 years of litigation regarding the second amendment.

And, that opion only covered weapons in a home and property, not the right to carry out in public.

The opinion today strikes down a 1911 law. That law didn't come up out of the blue, it was based on even earlier laws.

The second was for 200+ years understood to be a collective right.

Its all about keeping a militia ready when there isn't a standing military.

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#23 2022-06-24 03:12:02

Re: Very weird firearms decision from the SC

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

Yees, and Scalia's opinion was at odds with over 200 years of litigation regarding the second amendment.

And, that opion only covered weapons in a home and property, not the right to carry out in public.

The opinion today strikes down a 1911 law. That law didn't come up out of the blue, it was based on even earlier laws.

The second was for 200+ years understood to be a collective right.

Its all about keeping a militia ready when there isn't a standing military.

They desroyed your arguement with two words.

THE PEOPLE.

Fuq off, you uneducated idiot.

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#24 2022-06-24 03:55:15

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Why are you deleting posts, Phil?

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Phillip_McCavity
#25 2022-06-24 05:31:24

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They desroyed your arguement with two words.

THE PEOPLE.

Fuq off, you uneducated idiot.

The people who are a part of a well regulated militia.

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