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anon user #3
#1 2022-01-26 17:31:12

Decent Vaccine skepticism community

If you are looking for such a place check out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateVaccines/

I'm not endorsing it as truth, just pointing out that it is possible to be skeptical of the vaccines without relying solely on unhinged conspiracy theories and poor sources (though there are some of both there as well).

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Ron_Santo_Redux
#2 2022-01-26 17:33:40

Re: Decent Vaccine skepticism community

anon user #3 wrote:

If you are looking for such a place check out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateVaccines/

I'm not endorsing it as truth, just pointing out that it is possible to be skeptical of the vaccines without relying solely on unhinged conspiracy theories and poor sources (though there are some of both there as well).

unhinged conspiracy theories like actually knowing 5 people between the ages of 19 and 60 who all have serious health complications after getting the  vaccine and or booster seat?  Like that?

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anon user #3
#3 2022-01-26 17:37:23

Re: Decent Vaccine skepticism community

Ron_Santo_Redux wrote:

unhinged conspiracy theories like actually knowing 5 people between the ages of 19 and 60 who all have serious health complications after getting the  vaccine and or booster seat?  Like that?

I'm actually all for debate and skepticism about the vaccines but the mindless conspiracy theories and misinformation gets old.  Anecdotes are even okay as long as they are presented as such and not as "You see!  This one case is proof that if you get the vaccine you will die of a heart attack!"

I actually had one relative die of a heart problem recently and another had a massive heart attack a couple months ago.  Both females who had moderna.  So I'm interested in the discussion and paying attention.  However the misinformation and "parroting" only makes it harder to get at the truth.

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anon user #3
#4 2022-01-26 17:39:54

Re: Decent Vaccine skepticism community

As for the anecdotes (that isn't an insult but rather a statement of fact.  An anecdote can eventually turn into evidence) we need a lot more information on the individual cases and then need to aggregate the data.  For the most part the government(s) already have resources doing this.

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Ron_Santo_Redux
#5 2022-01-26 17:58:54

Re: Decent Vaccine skepticism community

anon user #3 wrote:

I'm actually all for debate and skepticism about the vaccines but the mindless conspiracy theories and misinformation gets old.  Anecdotes are even okay as long as they are presented as such and not as "You see!  This one case is proof that if you get the vaccine you will die of a heart attack!"

I actually had one relative die of a heart problem recently and another had a massive heart attack a couple months ago.  Both females who had moderna.  So I'm interested in the discussion and paying attention.  However the misinformation and "parroting" only makes it harder to get at the truth.

The debate that needs to happen is between fauci and Dr. Malone.  Malone is all up for it. 

So what about the golden elf dago?


lollypop

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Ron_Santo_Redux
#6 2022-01-26 18:00:05

Re: Decent Vaccine skepticism community

anon user #3 wrote:

As for the anecdotes (that isn't an insult but rather a statement of fact.  An anecdote can eventually turn into evidence) we need a lot more information on the individual cases and then need to aggregate the data.  For the most part the government(s) already have resources doing this.

I know more people with serious side effects from the vaccine/booster than people that have been hospitalized from the virus ....anecdotal? maybe

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anon user #3
#7 2022-01-26 18:07:56

Re: Decent Vaccine skepticism community

Ron_Santo_Redux wrote:

I know more people with serious side effects from the vaccine/booster than people that have been hospitalized from the virus ....anecdotal? maybe

How was it established that it was due to the vaccine?  And what were the "serious side effects"?

One thing I will say is that I do think the heart risk should be monitored a lot more.  But this does seem to be on the CDC's radar somewhat:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc … ditis.html

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anon user #3
#8 2022-01-26 18:09:04

Re: Decent Vaccine skepticism community

Ron_Santo_Redux wrote:

The debate that needs to happen is between fauci and Dr. Malone.  Malone is all up for it. 

So what about the golden elf dago?


lollypop

I don;t think a debate between two people is going to solve anything.  I would argue we need better and increased data gathering and reporting.

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#9 2022-01-26 18:12:35

Re: Decent Vaccine skepticism community

anon user #3 wrote:

If you are looking for such a place check out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateVaccines/

I'm not endorsing it as truth, just pointing out that it is possible to be skeptical of the vaccines without relying solely on unhinged conspiracy theories and poor sources (though there are some of both there as well).

Merely being a skeptic is more than enough to be banned and blocked from most social media.


No dissent or discussion of alternatives is allowed at all.   That is a huge problem for these people, they are going to pay for that censorship.

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anon user #3
#10 2022-01-26 18:29:29

Re: Decent Vaccine skepticism community

wrote:

Merely being a skeptic is more than enough to be banned and blocked from most social media.


No dissent or discussion of alternatives is allowed at all.   That is a huge problem for these people, they are going to pay for that censorship.

Well I just linked to one such place and there is all sorts of skepticism there.  Some of it is mindless bullshyt, other is more fact based.

I think the problem is most people jut blindly parrot whatever they hear without any further investigation.

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Ron_Santo_Redux
#11 2022-01-26 18:37:43

Re: Decent Vaccine skepticism community

anon user #3 wrote:

How was it established that it was due to the vaccine?  And what were the "serious side effects"?

One thing I will say is that I do think the heart risk should be monitored a lot more.  But this does seem to be on the CDC's radar somewhat:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc … ditis.html

Friend's daughter - 20 , heart issues , node on lung , very fatigued.  Wont be able to play sports for at least a year.  The family's GP says its directly attributable to the booster she got.

You faggers want to double and triple verify if someone has these symptoms due to the shot and in the same breath you say that someone with stage 4 pancreatic cancer who tested positive died FROM COVID.  Do you understand why people are laughing AT you?

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Ron_Santo_Redux
#12 2022-01-26 18:38:27

Re: Decent Vaccine skepticism community

anon user #3 wrote:

I don;t think a debate between two people is going to solve anything.  I would argue we need better and increased data gathering and reporting.

So you're saying you're skeptical?

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